bkliewer@iuvax.cs.indiana.edu (Bradley Dyck Kliewer) (11/21/88)
I read that Codd was supposed to publish a new book on the relational
model this Fall, but I can't find anything in Books in Print or
Forthcoming Books in Print. Does anybody know what the status is?
Also, I've seen a very short description of Codd's 12 rules, but there
are a couple which I'm not quite clear on. The article references
Computer World, but gives no issue data. Can anybody give me an issue #,
or another book title which gives a thorough (and accurate) description?
Also, Is Codd on the net?
Bradley Dyck Kliewer Hacking...
bkliewer@iuvax.cs.indiana.edu It's not just an adventure
It's my job!beyer@ihnet.ATT.COM (Dave Beyerl) (11/21/88)
In article <15212@iuvax.cs.indiana.edu>, bkliewer@iuvax.cs.indiana.edu (Bradley Dyck Kliewer) writes: > > Also, I've seen a very short description of Codd's 12 rules, but there > are a couple which I'm not quite clear on. The article references > Computer World, but gives no issue data. Can anybody give me an issue #, The Computerworld article in which Codd presented his 12 rules is titled "Is your DBMS really relational?" and was published in two parts. The first appeared in a supplement to the October 14, 1985 issue, pages ID/1-ID/9 and the second appeared in the October 21, 1985 issue, pages 49-60. Dave Beyerl ihnet!beyer
friedl@vsi.COM (Stephen J. Friedl) (11/22/88)
In article <666@ihnet.ATT.COM>, beyer@ihnet.ATT.COM (Dave Beyerl) writes:
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< The Computerworld article in which Codd presented his 12 rules
< is titled "Is your DBMS really relational?" and was published in two
< parts. The first appeared in a supplement to the October 14, 1985 issue,
< pages ID/1-ID/9 and the second appeared in the October 21, 1985 issue,
< pages 49-60.
Somebody should send this to Dick Pick of Pick Systems. He
insists up and down that Pick is relational, and he dismisses
as "academic types" those who disagree.
Steve
P.S. - Hint: Pick has nonatomic attributes
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------------Nancy Reagan on the worm: "Just say OH NO!"------------bobd@bloom.UUCP (Bob Donaldson) (11/23/88)
In article <15212@iuvax.cs.indiana.edu>, bkliewer@iuvax.cs.indiana.edu (Bradley Dyck Kliewer) writes: > Also, I've seen a very short description of Codd's 12 rules, but there > are a couple which I'm not quite clear on. The article references > Computer World, but gives no issue data. Can anybody give me an issue #, > or another book title which gives a thorough (and accurate) description? There is an excellent article in the recent (NOV?) issue of Database Programming & Design which deals with Codd's 12 rules. Very clear & readable, and even includes some of Codd's thoughts on what the rules DO NOT say. I recommend both the article and the magazine. -=- Bob Donaldson ...!cs.utexas.edu!natinst!radian!bobd Radian Corporation ...!sun!texsun!radian!bobd PO Box 201088 Austin, TX 78720 (512) 454-4797 Views expressed are my own, not necessarily those of my employer.
sysop@stech.UUCP (Jan Harrington) (11/27/88)
in article <15212@iuvax.cs.indiana.edu>, bkliewer@iuvax.cs.indiana.edu (Bradley Dyck Kliewer) says: > > > I read that Codd was supposed to publish a new book on the relational > model this Fall, but I can't find anything in Books in Print or > Forthcoming Books in Print. Does anybody know what the status is? > The book is actually listed in Addison-Wesley's catalog. However, when I called to try to order a copy, they told me that it would not be available until June. > Also, I've seen a very short description of Codd's 12 rules, but there > are a couple which I'm not quite clear on. The article references > Computer World, but gives no issue data. Can anybody give me an issue #, or another book title which gives a thorough (and accurate) description? The two articles appeared in the October 14 and 21, 1985, issues of Computerworld. You will also find a complete description of them in my book, Relational Database Management for Microcomputers: Design and Implementation (Holt, Rinehart & Winston, 1988). If you can lay your hands on a copy, see Chapter 6. > > Also, Is Codd on the net? > Not that I'm aware of. Jan Harrington, sysop Scholastech Telecommunications UUCP: husc6!amcad!stech!sysop or allegra!stech!sysop BITNET: JHARRY@BENTLEY ******************************************************************************** Miscellaneous profundity: "No matter where you go, there you are." Buckaroo Banzai ********************************************************************************