jay@umd5.umd.edu (Jay Elvove) (04/12/90)
I keep seeing articles in various trade magazines stating that the next release of Ultrix (v 4.0) will come bundled with a "runtime version" of RTI's Ingres. None of these articles has gone into much detail. What exactly is meant by a runtime version of a DBMS? Does anyone know just how much of Ingres' DBMS will come with Ultrix (i.e., precompilers, an SQL or some other front end, DBA and application tools, networking support) if anything? -- Jay Elvove jay@umd5.umd.edu c/o Academic Software Comp. Sci. Center, Univ. of Md., College Park
grr@cbmvax.commodore.com (George Robbins) (04/13/90)
In article <6389@umd5.umd.edu> jay@umd5.umd.edu (Jay Elvove) writes: > I keep seeing articles in various trade magazines stating that the next > release of Ultrix (v 4.0) will come bundled with a "runtime version" of > RTI's Ingres. None of these articles has gone into much detail. > > What exactly is meant by a runtime version of a DBMS? Does anyone know > just how much of Ingres' DBMS will come with Ultrix (i.e., precompilers, > an SQL or some other front end, DBA and application tools, networking > support) if anything? I would expect it to include whatever components are required from the normal distribution to run or install applications. This lets applications vendors include the stubs in their distributions and pass back license fees to the DBMS vendor without having to include a complete distribution of the DBMS stuff. All in all, it's not a bad idea, but you don't get a useful DBMS outside the particular applications environment unless you fork out for some kind of DBMS development distribution... -- George Robbins - now working for, uucp: {uunet|pyramid|rutgers}!cbmvax!grr but no way officially representing: domain: grr@cbmvax.commodore.com Commodore, Engineering Department phone: 215-431-9349 (only by moonlite)
dmn@stiatl.UUCP (Michael Nowacki) (04/13/90)
In article <6389@umd5.umd.edu> jay@umd5.umd.edu (Jay Elvove) writes: > the next release of Ultrix (v 4.0) will come bundled with a "runtime version" of >RTI's Ingres. None of these articles has gone into much detail. > >just how much of Ingres' DBMS will come with Ultrix (i.e., precompilers, a runtime version means it will support canned applications without providing the ability to develop new ones. i work for a vms value added reseller; our var license is: you get everything needed for a minimal system, with the routines to create new objects disabled. thus a 3rd party vendor can sell you the executables and pre-built tables for their application, and you just load them onto your system. but you can't create any more tables, etc of your own. -- Michael Nowacki gatech!stiatl!dmn Sales Technologies, Inc |\ /| 3399 Peachtree Rd, NE | \/ | Atlanta-in-the-kudzu, GA (404) 841-5006 _|ike |_
wallis@labc.dec.com (Barry L. Wallis) (04/13/90)
In article <6389@umd5.umd.edu>, jay@umd5.umd.edu (Jay Elvove) writes... >I keep seeing articles in various trade magazines stating that the next >release of Ultrix (v 4.0) will come bundled with a "runtime version" of >RTI's Ingres. None of these articles has gone into much detail. > >What exactly is meant by a runtime version of a DBMS? Does anyone know >just how much of Ingres' DBMS will come with Ultrix (i.e., precompilers, >an SQL or some other front end, DBA and application tools, networking >support) if anything? >-- The following is from an information sheet I have: ULTRIX/SQL Run-time engine: Full support of multiserver architecture; intelligent query optimizer Interactive SQL terminal monitor: Allows databases to be created and manipulated using only the base system with online help language tables. Database Adminsistrator (DBA) tools optimization tools: Allows DBA to create database systems and maintain them. Additionally, there are optimization tools to tune for performance in such areas as tunable lock management, tunable buffer management, and backup and recovery. DECnet and TCP/IP network access within ULTRIX environment: Database tables can be shared among multiple ULTRIX systems using either DECnet or TCP/IP. Documentation: Full set includes on-line, man-pages, and a standards cross-reference table outlining commands that comply to current standards such as ANSI and X/Open. Disclaimer: Although I work for DEC I only support databases running under VMS. --- Barry L. Wallis USENET: wallis@labc.dec.com Database Consultant Prodigy (don't laugh): DNMX41A U.S. DECtp Resource Center DECUServe: EISNER::WALLIS (not on the net yet) Los Angeles, CA "I represent myself not Digital Equipment Corp." ---