[comp.databases] PRO-C

tony@killer.UUCP (Tony Holden) (03/15/88)

After seeing Pro-C at Uniform and seeing it mentioned here, has anyone
any words of wisdom about the package?

They were to contact me about an evaluation copy but I've heard nothing
from them and I'm too cheap to call overseas ($$$).

Tony Holden
ihnp4!killer!tony

Bron@cup.portal.com (George Bron Faison) (05/26/90)

Beware!  I too was looking at this package; but Vestronix is radically
altering their terms and instead of about 500 and no royalties, etc.
they've gone to some crazy scheme costing over 2000 per month for 18
months, etc. (With lots of great "services" included, etc.)

From my discussions with them, I dropped the package like a hot potato!

Anyone want a almost new copy of Pro-C for DOS?

Bron

fr@icdi10.UUCP (Fred Rump from home) (05/27/90)

In article <30221@cup.portal.com> Bron@cup.portal.com (George Bron Faison) writes:
>Beware!  I too was looking at this package; but Vestronix is radically
>altering their terms and instead of about 500 and no royalties, etc.
>they've gone to some crazy scheme costing over 2000 per month for 18
>months, etc. (With lots of great "services" included, etc.)
>
>From my discussions with them, I dropped the package like a hot potato!
>
>Anyone want a almost new copy of Pro-C for DOS?

'Hot potato' is an understatement. After they set up an arrangement with Raima 
to use the db_VISTA database as a backend to their code generator, they 
inexplicably changed the deal after getting a lot of inquiries from Vista's 
mailings. All of a sudden they were forcing gargantuan support fees onto 
anybody who wanted to use PRO-C.

Our attempts at explaining a needless support requirement were met with 
condescending statements as to how we don't really know how difficult it is to 
write in C etc. etc.  I basically told them to go to hell and stick their damn 
package where the sun ...

We'll see how long they survive.
fred


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fred@cdin-1.UUCP (Fred Rump) (05/29/90)

In article <1121@icdi10.UUCP> fr@icdi10.UUCP (Fred Rump from home) writes:

>All of a sudden they were forcing gargantuan support fees onto
>anybody who wanted to use PRO-C.

The power of the net!

First thing this morning, a call from the VP of Sales of Vestronics Corp.

There now is apparently interest to sell the product as is for development 
purposes. A one-time charge, no royalties. Just what we were looking for in 
the first place.

An evaluation copy will be on the way for use under SCO Xenix with db_VISTA as
the backend. We shall see what it's all about and report back here.

For those who tuned in late - PRO C is an application generator / development 
tool.

fred

PS It would be interesting to hear from users of PRO C.




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