[comp.databases] Questions on INGRES

joe@athena.mit.edu (Joseph C Wang) (01/06/90)

Is anyone working on a X11 frontend for Ingres?

Can version 6.0 work with UNIX?

Is there a way of getting Ingres 5.0 to fill the entire screen if it's
bigger than 80x24?

Are there style guides for ABF applications?

What the best way of teaching Ingres?

Is there anyone at MIT working with Ingres that I can bug with questions
like these?
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jkrueger@dgis.dtic.dla.mil (Jon) (01/09/90)

joe@athena.mit.edu (Joseph C Wang) writes:

>Is anyone working on a X11 frontend for Ingres?

Yes.  Ingres (the company).  Doubtless also others, such
as builders and integraters of CASE toolsets.

>Can version 6.0 work with UNIX?

Yes.

>Is there a way of getting Ingres 5.0 to fill the entire screen if it's
>bigger than 80x24?

Yes, edit ~rtingres/files/termcap.  There is no flexible way, such
as would handle a window resize.

>Are there style guides for ABF applications?

The Ingres (the company) course notes.  None other I know of.

>What the best way of teaching Ingres?

Develop a small application using strictly query language.
Then show QBF then ABF on the same application.  If appropriate
then show embedded query language, comparing the cost/benefits
versus OSL.  Note that this isn't the best way of learning Ingres,
which is probably Ingres (the company)'s courses.

>Is there anyone at MIT working with Ingres that I can bug with questions
>like these?

No they're all at the X conference.  See you there!

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moiram@tekcae.CAX.TEK.COM (Moira Mallison) (01/11/90)

In article <717@dgis.dtic.dla.mil> jkrueger@dgis.dtic.dla.mil (Jon) writes:
>joe@athena.mit.edu (Joseph C Wang) writes:
>>Can version 6.0 work with UNIX?
>
>Yes.

While Ingres Corp may claim that "Ingres is Ingres is Ingres", nobody
claims "Unix is Unix is Unix".  The real answer to Joe's question is
"it depends".  It works on some forms of Unix (eg Sun OS), will 
work (but not currently a production release) on other forms (eg Ultrix),
and will never work on some other versions (eg 4.3 BSD) because
of design incompatibilities.  Version 6.0 requires the kernel to be
configured with shared memory, and 4.3BSD doesn't have that capability.

Moira Mallison
Tektronix, Inc.

yjkim@milton.u.washington.edu (Yong Kim) (07/11/90)

I have been using Ingres for IBM PC for about 5 months and
found that the product has good and bad aspects.   One problem
in my PC environment is that it needs at least 570K, but under
DOS 4.01, the maximum I could reserve for Ingres is 540K.  If my
database grows (including data, forms, application definitions, etc.)
it begins to complain "out of memory", "buffer full",..  which must
be undesirable and should not happen. (I think).   Is there any quick
solution to this situation?   Is there any user group to discuss this
problem?  Does the company maintain electronic bulletin board?  Do
you know their number?
Well, one last (but not the least, as they say in America) question is
about the optimization scheme (or algorithms, tricks) implemented in 
Ingres.  Do you have any pointer (especially published article, or 
proceedings)?    I will summarize the replies, so please help me!

yjkim@milton.acs.washington.edu