talley@hpuxa.ircc.ohio-state.edu (James T. Talley) (08/05/90)
I have some questions about Apple's Data Access Language (DAL -- formerly CL/1). It's not clear from the promotional literature I have whether the DAL server software is a necessary part of the equation for access to SQL databases. For example, if you have Oracle running on an A/UX system, do you need the DAL server software on the A/UX machine for DAL clients on other Macs to access the Oracle databases? While we're on the subject, the price list I have (Developer Tools Express -- Summer 1990) lists several CL/1 server packages for non-Unix machines. Is there such a thing as a DAL server for A/UX? Am I just completely confused? James Talley
chuq@Apple.COM (Spot, the Wonder Dog) (08/05/90)
talley@hpuxa.ircc.ohio-state.edu (James T. Talley) writes: >I have some questions about Apple's Data Access Language (DAL -- >formerly CL/1). It's not clear from the promotional literature I have >whether the DAL server software is a necessary part of the equation >for access to SQL databases. Yes. You need a server on the host machine to access a database. It's the hook that gets you onto the system. >For example, if you have Oracle running >on an A/UX system, do you need the DAL server software on the A/UX >machine for DAL clients on other Macs to access the Oracle databases? If a DAL server existed on A/UX, yes. DAL is only supported on VMS, MVS and VM at the current time. There's no A/UX-based server right now. -- Chuq Von Rospach <+> chuq@apple.com <+> [This is myself speaking] It's a small world, after all! It's a small world, after all! It's a small world, after all! It's a small, small world!
hdai@dvlseq.oracle.com (Henry Dai) (08/07/90)
> Xref: oracle comp.databases:6439 comp.unix.aux:2393 > Path: oracle!pyramid!decwrl!sdd.hp.com!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!nisca.ircc.oh io-state.edu!hpuxa.ircc.ohio-state.edu!talley > From: talley@hpuxa.ircc.ohio-state.edu (James T. Talley) > Newsgroups: comp.databases,comp.unix.aux > Subject: Want Info on Apple's DAL (CL/1) > Summary: is server necessary? > Keywords: DAL CL/1 Apple A/UX SQL > Message-ID: <3469@nisca.ircc.ohio-state.edu> > Date: 4 Aug 90 19:46:51 GMT > Sender: news@nisca.ircc.ohio-state.edu > Followup-To: comp.databases > Organization: Ohio State Univ CTE > Lines: 14 > > I have some questions about Apple's Data Access Language (DAL -- > formerly CL/1). It's not clear from the promotional literature I have > whether the DAL server software is a necessary part of the equation > for access to SQL databases. For example, if you have Oracle running > on an A/UX system, do you need the DAL server software on the A/UX > machine for DAL clients on other Macs to access the Oracle databases? I can't speak for other databases, but you do NOT need to have DAL to access the Oracle databases on AUX. Oracle can run independently of any other database software. The main advantage of DAL is that it provides a uniform inteface to various supported databases. See the article titled "Competitors or Complements?" in the spring issue of ORACLE magzine for a detailed comparison analysis of DAL and comparable Oracle products, and Oracle's position on DAL. > While we're on the subject, the price list I have (Developer Tools > Express -- Summer 1990) lists several CL/1 server packages for > non-Unix machines. Is there such a thing as a DAL server for A/UX? > > Am I just completely confused? > No, you are not. Last I heard, the Networking Innovations, the company that develops DAL for Apple, is porting DAL servers to A/UX 2.0 . Eventually, it will work with major databases like Oracle. So with Oracle, you will have a choice of using DAL or not. > James Talley Henry Dai
hdai@dvlseq.oracle.com (Henry Dai) (08/08/90)
To clearify my previous article on DAL: one does not have to have DAL to access Oracle, though DAL clients DO need a DAL server to access Oracle. Henry Dai