mcintoshc@ctl.co.nz (11/15/90)
In article <3825@uniol.UUCP>, Hans.Heinrich.Siemers@arbi.informatik.uni-oldenburg.de (Hans-Heinrich Siemers) writes: > Please help! > > I need all kind of information about fourth-generation languages > (e.g. INFORMIX-4GL) and graphical interaction languages to database > sustems. > Thanks > Hans-Heinrich Siemers > (hans.heinrich.siemers@arbi.informatik.uni-oldenburg.de) > > > -- INGRES WINDOWS-4GL should be a good starting point - it has the best GUI I've seen on a major database system - full mouse control, windows, BLOBS (textual graphical, scanned images etc). It is fully event driven and _obviously_ SQL compliant. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- From : Colin McIntosh, Project Manager # .=====. ======== Computertime Ltd, P.O. Box 6243 # / / / / Wellington, New Zealand # / / / Phone: (04) 852 195 # / / / Fax : (04) 828 288 # / / / / Internet: MCINTOSHC@NZFC.CO.NZ # ====== / ====== -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
tore@ifi.uio.no (Tore Solvar Karlsen) (11/16/90)
In article <1990Nov15.091534.13377@ctl.co.nz>, mcintoshc@ctl.co.nz writes: > INGRES WINDOWS-4GL should be a good starting point - it has the best GUI I've > seen on a major database system - full mouse control, windows, BLOBS (textual > graphical, scanned images etc). It is fully event driven and _obviously_ SQL > compliant. Yes. It looks good, but I've only seen it demonstrated on SUN-4. Can anyone tell me if INGRES Windows 4GL are ported to other hardware-platforms such as Decstation? If not, have anyone heard of a release date ? A rumour: INGRES Windows 4GL will not be ported to the SUN-3 platform. Can someone confirm this rumour? There must be a lot of sites out there still running SUN-3's who want this product, or ? -- Tore Solvar email: tore@ifi.uio.no ...!uunet!ifi.uio.no!tore
weimer@ssd.kodak.com (Gary Weimer) (11/16/90)
In article <1990Nov15.194011.2135@ifi.uio.no> tore@ifi.uio.no (Tore Solvar Karlsen) writes: > >In article <1990Nov15.091534.13377@ctl.co.nz>, mcintoshc@ctl.co.nz writes: >> INGRES WINDOWS-4GL should be a good starting point - it has the best GUI I've >> seen on a major database system - full mouse control, windows, BLOBS (textual >> graphical, scanned images etc). It is fully event driven and _obviously_ SQL >> compliant. > >Yes. It looks good, but I've only seen it demonstrated on SUN-4. > >Can anyone tell me if INGRES Windows 4GL are ported to other >hardware-platforms such as Decstation? If not, have anyone heard of a release >date ? > >A rumour: INGRES Windows 4GL will not be ported to the SUN-3 platform. >Can someone confirm this rumour? As I vaguely remember it: Currently available on: Sun4 Decstation (I think) Soon available (by year end/early next year): Mac OS/2 (I may have forgotten others, sorry) Currently there are no plans to port Sun3 (low perceived demand + Sun phasing out Sun3's) Someone who asked a sales rep, but didn't think to write down answer :-( Gary Weimer
bg0l+@andrew.cmu.edu (Bruce E. Golightly) (11/16/90)
Ingres Windows/4GL has been ported to a number of X compliant
environemts, according to the local sales rep. This came out of
discussions about getting this stuff for my VMS workstations. The
DECWindows version is coming along quite nicely. From what I've heard
in various places, the ports are relatively easy for those environments
that are really compatible, whatever that means (:^}). How much of this
stuff is production quality is unclear at this time, nor do I know what
versions are available for shipment. You need to take that one up with
your sales rep.
I'm supposed to be getting the DECWindows version. I'm not sure of the
timing yet. I haven't heard a release date for it, so I'm expecting it
when it gets here. After I get it up and play with it for a while, I'll
try to put together some observations and post them.
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#############################################################################prc@erbe.se (Robert Claeson) (11/17/90)
In a recent article, tore@ifi.uio.no (Tore Solvar Karlsen) writes about Ingres/Windows 4GL: >Yes. It looks good, but I've only seen it demonstrated on SUN-4. > >Can anyone tell me if INGRES Windows 4GL are ported to other >hardware-platforms such as Decstation? If not, have anyone heard of a release >date ? It is ported to the Sun 4 and some other platforms, of which I believe the DECstation is one. It is being ported, or will be ported, to numerous otehr platforms as well, including large multiprocessor UNIX boxes, such as the Encore Multimax. >A rumour: INGRES Windows 4GL will not be ported to the SUN-3 platform. >Can someone confirm this rumour? > >There must be a lot of sites out there still running SUN-3's who want this >product, or ? Well, the Sun 3 architecture isn't redeveloped further, and there won't be any more o/s releases for it. Why would any software vendor want to port new products to it? Note that I'm not nessecarily agreeing with Sun and/or Ingres here, being a Sun 3 user myself. -- Robert Claeson |Reasonable mailers: rclaeson@erbe.se ERBE DATA AB | Dumb mailers: rclaeson%erbe.se@sunet.se Jakobsberg, Sweden | Perverse mailers: rclaeson%erbe.se@encore.com Any opinions expressed herein definitely belongs to me and not to my employer.
nbladt@aut.autelca.ascom.ch (Norbert Bladt) (11/19/90)
tore@ifi.uio.no (Tore Solvar Karlsen) writes: >In article <1990Nov15.091534.13377@ctl.co.nz>, mcintoshc@ctl.co.nz writes: >> INGRES WINDOWS-4GL should be a good starting point - it has the best GUI I've [ Text about it deleted ] >Yes. It looks good, but I've only seen it demonstrated on SUN-4. True, it is looking good (on pictures). See later on. >Can anyone tell me if INGRES Windows 4GL are ported to other >hardware-platforms such as Decstation? If not, have anyone heard of a release >date ? I have seen it on VAXstations (with VMS :-( and DECWIndows), of course. It ran very SLOOOOOWLY. Even the created .EXE programs ran slowly. After the resources were created (on the fly ?!) by reading the .EXE file they were in memory and they ran faster, of course. So, using one pop-up (etc.) just once is not a very good idea. >A rumour: INGRES Windows 4GL will not be ported to the SUN-3 platform. >Can someone confirm this rumour? No idea. >There must be a lot of sites out there still running SUN-3's who want this >product, or ? I think, the sales of this went down much after the SUN-4 arrived, right ? Norbert. -- Norbert Bladt, Ascom Autelca AG, Worbstr. 201, CH-3073 Guemligen, Switzerland Phone: +41 31 52 92 14 Mail: nbladt@autelca.ascom.ch UUCP: ..!uunet!mcsun!chx400!hslrswi!aut!nbladt