[comp.databases] Clipper for Mac?

drmath@viking.UUCP (Doctor Math) (05/23/91)

What databases are there for the Macintosh? Specifically for someone
coming from a Clipper background.. Clipper for the Mac would be nice
(as would Clipper under UNIX), but since such a thing could be indefinite
in forthcoming, I would appreciate any pointers in this direction.
There is always SoftPC, but I am hoping for something a little more
elegant...

*** Doctor Math

disclaimer: If my company caught me saying this, I would have to fire myself.

awd@dbase.A-T.COM (Alastair Dallas) (06/03/91)

In article <giPD32@viking.UUCP>, drmath@viking.UUCP (Doctor Math) writes:
> What databases are there for the Macintosh? Specifically for someone
> coming from a Clipper background.. Clipper for the Mac would be nice

Your choices on the Mac are:

	1) McMax from Nantucket.  A third-party product re-packaged
	  by Nantucket; not well integrated or well thought-of, I'm
	  afraid, but I've never seen it.

	2) FoxBase/Mac.  An impressively Mac-like product, essentially
	  dBASE III PLUS functionality with menus and radio buttons
	  added to the language.  I've known developers who were very
	  happy with FoxBase/Mac, but one caveat: your Mac apps won't
	  port easily to FoxPro on MS-DOS.

	3) dBASE IV Runtime Plus for Macintosh was just released by
	  us.  It's 100% compatible with dBASE IV 1.1 (with limited
	  "runtime" functionality and a dot prompt) and is cross-
	  platform.  Meaning you can compile a prg on MS-DOS and
	  run the dbo object file on Macintosh, Sun, Vax, or MS-DOS
	  unchanged.  More platforms coming soon.

	4) Something else, which I haven't heard of.

I have played with FoxBase/Mac, and I can highly recommend it if you
plan to stay on the Mac, or if dBASE III PLUS functionality is all
you need and you can write to a lowest-common denominator across
platforms.  If cross-platform is a significant consideration, I'd
suggest our product.

/alastair/

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AR.HFN@forsythe.stanford.edu (Hooshyar Naraghi) (06/04/91)

In article <1991Jun3.032336.21819@dbase.A-T.COM>,
awd@dbase.A-T.COM (Alastair Dallas) writes:
>In article <giPD32@viking.UUCP>, drmath@viking.UUCP (Doctor Math) writes:
>> What databases are there for the Macintosh? Specifically for someone
>> coming from a Clipper background.. Clipper for the Mac would be nice
>
>Your choices on the Mac are:
.
.
.
>        2) FoxBase/Mac.  An impressively Mac-like product, essentially
>          dBASE III PLUS functionality with menus and radio buttons
>          added to the language.  I've known developers who were very
>          happy with FoxBase/Mac, but one caveat: your Mac apps won't
>          port easily to FoxPro on MS-DOS.
>
I am in the middle of a port from Foxbase+/Mac to Foxpro 1.02, and
it is not as difficult as you sound it here.  I brought in a coder
who knew dbaseIII+, and with minimal help and in 2 months time he
has ported 1 MB out of 1.5 MB of Mac source code to Foxpro 1.02 on
MS-DOS.

Now that Foxpro 2.0 is coming out we can port everything from Mac to
PC except the fonts.  On another note, dBASEIII+ is a subset of
Foxbase+/Mac.  Foxbase+/Mac has special commands and functions that
address specifically the Macintosh interface, such as Macintosh
style windowing capabilities, object oriented form design and report
writer design, memo field scrolling, report scrolling, variety of
button tools including radio button, text buttons, check boxes,
scroll list, & popup list.

Just expressing my experience.
Hooshyar Naraghi
AR.HFN@forsythe.stanford.edu
(415) 324-0155

dent@DIALix.oz.au (Andrew Dent) (06/05/91)

In <1991Jun3.032336.21819@dbase.A-T.COM> awd@dbase.A-T.COM (Alastair Dallas) writes:

>In article <giPD32@viking.UUCP>, drmath@viking.UUCP (Doctor Math) writes:
>> What databases are there for the Macintosh? Specifically for someone
>> coming from a Clipper background.. Clipper for the Mac would be nice

>	2) FoxBase/Mac.  An impressively Mac-like product, essentially
>	  dBASE III PLUS functionality with menus and radio buttons
>	  added to the language.  I've known developers who were very
>	  happy with FoxBase/Mac, but one caveat: your Mac apps won't
>	  port easily to FoxPro on MS-DOS.
Next year - FoxPRO for Windows will be due and some convergence of
Mac and PC products will occur. FoxPRO for Mac is due RSN but the
interface stuff requires different code for PC/Mac.


>I have played with FoxBase/Mac, and I can highly recommend it if you
>plan to stay on the Mac, or if dBASE III PLUS functionality is all
>you need and you can write to a lowest-common denominator across
>platforms.  If cross-platform is a significant consideration, I'd
>suggest our product.
I've actually converted some Clipper stuff to FoxBASE+/Mac and this
statement is a little misleading. FoxBASE+/Mac implements a lot of
extensions to the dBASEIII+ standard that make it far easier to port
Clipper code than if you were porting it (backwards) to dBASE III+.

>/alastair/
Andy Dent                     A.D. Software phone 09 249 2719
Mac & VAX programmer          94 Bermuda Dve, Ballajura
dent@DIALix.oz                Western Australia  6066     
dent@DIALix.oz.au (international)