[comp.std.internat] U.S. HDTV STANDARDS DELEGATION SCUTTLES 1920x1080 COMMON IMAGE FORMAT

poynton@vector.Sun.COM (Charles A. Poynton) (03/06/90)

U.S. HDTV STANDARDS DELEGATION SCUTTLES 1920x1080 COMMON IMAGE FORMAT

February 23, 1990

Washington, DC--High definition television standards development in the United
States suffered a setback when the U.S. delegation to the international CCIR
Interim Working Party decided that the United States should take no position
regarding the adoption of a 1920x1080 Common Image Format (CIF) as the first
step towards the goal of a single worldwide HDTV production standard.

The U.S. CCIR National Study Group 11 decided not to accept the recommendation
of the U.S. Advanced Television Systems Committee for a 1920x1080 two megapixel
format.  Of about thirty participants, four individuals voiced the opinion that
the two megapixel format would be unattractive to the computer industry.  One
favours a 2 1/4 megapixel format.  The group operates by "consensus" and the
contributions of the four were taken by the group as evidence of lack of
consensus.

Of the four persons that argued against 1920x1080, only Richard Solomon of the
MIT Media Lab <rjs@media-lab.mit.edu> is a regular member of the group.  None of
the other three had previously attended a US SG11 meeting.  Solomon has
previously argued against the adoption of square pixels for the HDTV production
standard and convinced the U.S. delegation at the last CCIR IWP meeting to
withdraw comment on that issue.  "I don't care whether the pixels are square,
round, circular or hexagonal," Solomon is quoted as saying, "and there's no need
to standardize the number of lines."  Solomon and other MIT researchers
emphasize that they speak only for themselves and not for MIT or the Media Lab.
The widespread availability of commercial HDTV products applicable to the
computer industry and well integrated with television equipment would be
expected to seriously jeopardize the ability of the Media Lab to obtain funding
for its research into the integration of computing and television.

The Canadian delegation will now present what was to have been a joint U.S.-
Canada document, putting forward the case for 1920x1080 as leading to economical
framebuffer implementations (due to its total of two megapixels) and offering an
excellent compromise among the choices proposed for picture line count (966,
1035, 1080 and 1152).

If agreement on CIF could be achieved then work would start on the second step
toward a single worldwide HDTV standard, the choice of a common frame rate.
Some computer industry experts advocate 24 Hz origination and 72 Hz display of
the 1920x1080 CIF as being a potential single standard applicable to both film
production and computer applications.  Experts agree that a single international
standard cannot be achieved at any one of 25, 29.97 or 30 Hz.  A very large
fraction of broadcast programming is currently originated at 24 Hz so that rate
is amenable to broadcast.  If a frame rate other than 24 Hz is adopted for HDTV,
then movies will continue to be produced on film to assure continued access to
the international markets that 24 Hz film currently enjoys in cinema,
television, videotape and videodisc distribution.  However, the CCIR adopted the
two-step approach because of the difficulty of achieving simultaneous agreement
on image format and frame rate and frame rate is therefore not yet under
discussion at the CCIR.

Many Japanese manufacturers have been waiting patiently for international
standards development to progress.  The absence of agreement on basic parameters
at the CCIR IWP meetings in Atlanta, March 22-28, is likely to lead to de facto
standards (such as 1125/60/2:1 with its non-square pixels and interlaced
display) that are not be amenable to computer applications.  This is seen as a
serious disadvantage to U.S. computer manufacturers and users who stand to
benefit much more from a single standard suited to the interconnection of
systems in a wide variety of applications than a multiplicity of different
standards each serving one particular industry.

It is possible that a groundswell of support prior to March 22 could convince
the committee that consensus in the U.S. computer industry favors U.S. support
of the 1920x1080 CIF proposal.

Comments should be directed to:

Richard Schrum
Chairman, U.S. CCIR National Committee
Office of International Radio Communications
U.S. Department of State, Room 6317
Washington, DC 20520

John Reiser
Chairman, U.S. Delegation, CCIR Study Group 11
Federal Communications Commission
P.O. Box 19424
Washington, DC 20554

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In an unrelated story, Tektronix of Portland, Oregon announced its intention to
sell its Grass Valley Group subsidiary to Sony.  GVG is world-famous for
manufacturing high-quality television studio production equipment.  The sale of
GVG would leave Ampex Corporation of Redwood City, Calif. as the sole remaining
major U.S.-controlled manufacturer of broadcast television equipment.  Ampex
introduced the world's first videotape recorder in 1956.

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chuck@melmac.harris-atd.com (Chuck Musciano) (03/07/90)

In article <132563@sun.Eng.Sun.COM> poynton@vector.Sun.COM (Charles A. Poynton) writes:
>In an unrelated story, Tektronix of Portland, Oregon announced its intention to
>sell its Grass Valley Group subsidiary to Sony.  GVG is world-famous for
>manufacturing high-quality television studio production equipment.  The sale of
>GVG would leave Ampex Corporation of Redwood City, Calif. as the sole remaining
>major U.S.-controlled manufacturer of broadcast television equipment.  Ampex
>introduced the world's first videotape recorder in 1956.

     Doesn't Harris Corporation build broadcast TV equipment?  I work for
Harris, but in the Defense sector, not the commercial side.  I thought we
should at least get a mention :-)  Perhaps someone from Harris Broadcast
Division in Quincy, Illinois could comment further.

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alanj@nevermore.WV.TEK.COM (Alan Jeddeloh;685-2991;61-201;292-9740;orca) (03/08/90)

In article <132563@sun.Eng.Sun.COM> poynton@vector.Sun.COM (Charles A. Poynton) writes:
>In an unrelated story, Tektronix of Portland, Oregon announced its intention to
>sell its Grass Valley Group subsidiary to Sony.  GVG is world-famous for
>manufacturing high-quality television studio production equipment.  The sale of
>GVG would leave Ampex Corporation of Redwood City, Calif. as the sole remaining
>major U.S.-controlled manufacturer of broadcast television equipment.  Ampex
>introduced the world's first videotape recorder in 1956.

First of all, the story is a bit overstated.  Tektronix and Sony have
disclosed that they are *discussing* the possible sale of the Grass Valley
Group.  The talks have been going on for some time, there is no reason to
believe that any sale is imminent.  The *only* reason that any announcement
was made was that news of the talks leaked, and Tek was required to make
disclosure per SEC regulations.

Second, television is alive and well a Tek.  We build a complete line of video
broadcast test and measurement equipment in Beaverton, OR.  The product line
includes equipment for HDTV.  The sale of that business is *not* being
contempleted.  In addition, Tektronix labs is actively involved in HDTV R&D.

    -Alan Jeddeloh      (503) 685-2991
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