muller@sdcc7.ucsd.EDU (Keith Muller) (12/20/88)
For those of you making arrangements for the winter 1989 Usenix in San Diego: San Diego is typical of many southern California cities and is spread out over a large geographical area with limited public transportation. The Winter USENIX is in an area that has a large number of hotels, but is not typical of San Diego in general. There is a lot to see and do in San Diego, but it is not usually within walking distance of the hotel. If you plan on spending some time touring around San Diego either sightseeing or dining outside of the conference hotel area, you probably want to consider obtaining a rental car. Keith Muller University of California, San Diego
knutson@marconi.sw.mcc.com (Jim Knutson) (12/21/88)
Would someone in the San Diego area list some attractions that might be worth seeing before or after USENIX. It would help some of us plan how long we want to stay and sight-see. Also, any info on prices and how long it takes to see the sight would be helpful. What about clothing? Can someone estimate weather for us? Many thanks. -- Jim Knutson knutson@mcc.com cs.utexas.edu!milano!knutson
adam@gvax.cs.cornell.edu (Adam Feigin) (12/21/88)
In article <1805@marconi.sw.mcc.com> knutson@marconi.sw.mcc.com.UUCP (Jim Knutson) writes: >Would someone in the San Diego area list some attractions that might >be worth seeing before or after USENIX. It would help some of us >plan how long we want to stay and sight-see. Also, any info on >prices and how long it takes to see the sight would be helpful. > >What about clothing? Can someone estimate weather for us? Okay, so I'm not from San Diego, but I've been there many times (I have family that lives there) and know my way around pretty good.... If you've never been to the SD Zoo, than I suggest that you make a visit there. It is by far the best Zoo in the US. You will need an entire day to take it all in. You can do it in less, but you should catch some of the special animal shows (I recommend the bird show) that they have during the day and the early evening. I dont remember what the admission was the last time I was there, but I imagine it's between 5-10 bucks. Along the same lines, there's the Wild Animal Park (I think it's near Poway, about 20 minutes N. of SD by freeway). Another thing not to miss. You travel around on a tram which goes throughout the parks acreage, where all sorts of beasts are...The best time to go is dusk, as thats when the majority of animals are most active. Not sure on the price here, either, but its probably about the same as the Zoo. Plan on about a 2-3 hours there. You can check out the USN mothball fleet in the harbor, if that turns you on, and you can see the real 'Top Gun' school at Miramar Naval Air Station (if they'll let you in, I don't know about 'tours'). There's also the Scripps Institute of Oceanography in La Jolla, Sea World, The Reuben Fleet Air & Space Museum & Balboa Park (I think its still there) For the very brave, Tijuana is just a hop skip & a jump south. It's a dirty city, but there are some good restaurants, and you are allowed to bring back 1 litre of Al-Q-Hall per adult (it's real cheep down there). Make sure to leave at least an hour coming back through customs..It's a real nightmare ! The weather?? #include <std/disclaimer.h> If I remember correctly, SD in the winter is fairly nice. A rough guestimate would be temps somewhere between 50-60 during the day, and into the low 40's at night.... Hope this is of help..... Adam
rfarris@serene.UUCP (Rick Farris) (12/22/88)
In article <23670@cornell.UUCP> adam@gvax.cs.cornell.edu (Adam Feigin) writes:
~ ... The Reuben Fleet Air & Space Museum & Balboa Park
~ (I think its still there)
Indeed it is.
~ If I remember correctly, SD in the winter is fairly nice.
~ A rough guestimate would be temps somewhere between 50-60 during the
~ day, and into the low 40's at night....
Close, but try 60-70 in the daytime and low 50s at night. The only
possible bad weather, is rain. Unlikely, but possible.
Rick Farris RF Engineering POB M Del Mar, CA 92014 voice (619) 259-6793
rfarris@serene.cts.com ...!uunet!serene!rfarris serene.UUCP 259-7757malloy@nprdc.arpa (Sean Malloy) (12/22/88)
In article <23670@cornell.UUCP> adam@gvax.cs.cornell.edu (Adam Feigin) writes: > . . . The Reuben Fleet Air & Space Museum & Balboa Park >(I think its still there) Obviously, a little confused. The museum mall in Balboa Park, just south of the Zoo, has a number of museums, some rather spread out. On the east end, you will find the Natural History Museum across from the Reuben H. Fleet Space Theater and Science Center. Moving west, you will pass the Hall of Champions, a sports museum. Further west is the Museum of Fine Arts, with the Museum of Man beyond that. To the south of the Museum of Fine Arts is a road leading past the Spreckels Organ Pavilion and the Houses of Pacific Relations (a group of buildings around a grassy yard, each representing a specific country). At the end of the road is the Aerospace Museum. The whole area is no more than a fifteen-minute walk wide at most. Sean Malloy Navy Personnel Research & Development Center San Diego, CA 92152-6800 malloy@nprdc.arpa
hammond@cod.NOSC.MIL (John A. Hammond) (12/22/88)
You forgot the Museum of Photographic Arts and the Museum of San Diego History, both near the Hall of Champions, and Spanish Village just north of the Museum of Natural History. The Museum of Natural History has a great display of San Diego County Gems and Minerals, the variety of which is world class. Spanish Village is a collection of arts and crafts people and some of the local societies like the San Diego Mineral and Gem Society. On the Embarcadero, west end of Ash Street is the Maritime Museum with the Star of India, oldest iron sailing ship afloat, and the Berkeley, former San Francisco Bay ferryboat. BTW, local "public transportation" is a joke. There is a light rail trolly from the AMTRAK station to the border (Tia Juana) which is fun. The AMTRAK service from Los Angeles is good.
don@wiley.UUCP (Don Kark) (12/22/88)
In article <1805@marconi.sw.mcc.com> knutson@marconi.sw.mcc.com.UUCP (Jim Knutson) writes: >Would someone in the San Diego area list some attractions that might >be worth seeing before or after USENIX. It would help some of us >plan how long we want to stay and sight-see. Also, any info on >prices and how long it takes to see the sight would be helpful. The Navy (actually volunteers) gives tours of the aircraft carriers on weekends when they are docked. All you need to do is call the public relations people at the North Island Naval base. They give the tours on Saturdays, Sundays, and Holidays. Be warned, though, you can't just walk up to the gate and get in on a weekend. You need to apply for a pass by the Wednesday before. You can apply by phone. The price is free (can't beat that!) and the tour takes a couple hours. I never got a chance to go, but I set up a tour for my brother and he loved it! USENIX may be my chance! Here's some information I've gathered on the tours: Name: Naval Air Station (North Island) Work Phone: (619) 437-6011 (main) (619) 437-7661 (pub rel.) (619) 437-5825 x7881 (USS Constellation) Remarks: Tours Sat, Sun 9-11 and 2-4 Call by Wed. before to get base pass Have Fun! -- Don -- ============================================================================= Don Kark | {cit-vax,trwrb,uunet}!wiley!don TRW Inc. | wiley!don@csvax.caltech.edu Redondo Beach, CA | don@wiley.uucp
bhoule@se-sd.sandiego.ncr.com (Bill Houle) (12/23/88)
In article <218@serene.UUCP> rfarris@serene.cts.com (Rick Farris) writes: >> >> If I remember correctly, SD in the winter is fairly nice. >> A rough guestimate would be temps somewhere between 50-60 during the >> day, and into the low 40's at night.... > >Close, but try 60-70 in the daytime and low 50s at night. The only >possible bad weather, is rain. Unlikely, but possible. How about a compromise? San Diego is famous for the phrase "night and morning low clouds" (local weathermen [weatherpersons?] use it daily). During the winter months, these clouds sometimes refuse to burn off, making it slightly gray and overcast the entire day. If it is sunny and the clouds burn away, expect the temperature to average about 68-70. If the clouds remain, temps will be lower, maybe sub-60, but rarely below the speed limit (55 :). Nighttime temps will vary depending on where you stay (coastal, inland, etc), but "low 50s" is an accurate estimate. Regardless, you won't be needing your parka.... Not a weatherman, just Bill PS: We just had some rain these past few weeks, so maybe we've been weatherproofed. Of course, Jan-Feb usually (droughts and dry spells not withstanding) implies snow in the local mountains, which implies rain everywhere else. Maybe we can post a weatherwatch as the time draws nearer?
muller@sdcc7.ucsd.EDU (Keith Muller) (12/23/88)
A few notes: 1) BRING RAINGEAR! Although the chance is small, this is the only time in the year it rains. 2) Plan on 50-60 during the day. However it is quite possible to have 70's (or hopefully higher) during the day. The Town and Country has a large pool, so bring your swim-gear and hope for warm weather. 3) If you are going to Usenix just for the conference, you can survive without a rental car. The dining and area guide that will be in the registration packet is set up by distance from conference hotel. 4) There are several good day trips such as to Julian or to Anza-Borrego. San Diego bookstores have several good guides on things to do (hiking, historical places.....). Keith Muller University of California, San Diego
ado@elsie.UUCP (Arthur David Olson) (12/23/88)
> How about a compromise? San Diego is famous for the phrase "night > and morning low clouds" (local weathermen [weatherpersons?] use it > daily). In the early 1970's, the radio weathercaster for KNX, up the coast in Los Angeles, got so tired of the daily Night and morning low clouds, clearing by mid-day. Highs in the mid-70's, overnight lows in the lower 50's. The Air Pollution Control District predicts light to moderate eye irritation in the basin. And there are no storm warnings between Point Concep[ct]ion and the Mexican border. incantation that reports started including acronyms such as NAMLC. (The temperature range above has been translated to San Diego.) Or, as my friend who's a meteorologist's offspring puts it: Climate is what you expect. Weather is what you get. San Diego only has climate. -- Arthur David Olson ado@ncifcrf.gov ADO is a trademark of Ampex.
Lawrence_H_Greenwald@cup.portal.com (12/26/88)
If you're headed for the zoo and are into model trains, don't forget to stop
at the San Diego Model Railroad Museum. 4 large operational (that's the big
thing!) layouts in about 22,000 square feet making it the largest museum of
its type in the USA!
The museum is in the Casa de Balboa about a half-mile walk south of the zoo.
Open Wed-Sun 11:00-5:00, admission is $1. Very much worth it.
Of course, I am a member of one of the participating groups, so my opinions
are definitely given to me by the board of directors of the museum. Make them
yours now. (BTW, 8^)>)
Larry Greenwald (UUCP: {backbone}!crash!pnet01!lgreen)
(PORTAL:Lawrence_H_Greenwald@cup.portal.com)