[comp.org.usenix] Things to do in San Diego

mark@corona.megatek.uucp (Mark Thompson) (01/18/89)

If you are going to be in town on: Fri-Sun 1/27-1/29 or Sat-Mon 2/4-2/6
you may be interested in seeing the "Festival of Animation" at the 
LaJolla Museum of Contemporary Arts.

This is a collection of (mostly recent) animated features from around
the world... nearly 2 hours worth. This year they apparently have (among
others) "Tin Toy" from Pixar and a collection of computer generated shorts.

Tickets are best gotten in advance. If you're from out of town this 
probably implies calling TicketMaster ((619) 278-TIXS) and paying too
much. Another note for out-of-towners... LaJolla is not walking distance
from the hotel, and it is highly unlikely that you can get a bus to there.

-mark
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jwabik@shamash.cdc.com (Jeff Wabik) (01/20/89)

In article <462@megatek.UUCP>, mark@corona.megatek.uucp (Mark Thompson) writes:
> If you are going to be in town on: Fri-Sun 1/27-1/29 or Sat-Mon 2/4-2/6
> you may be interested in seeing the "Festival of Animation" at the 
> LaJolla Museum of Contemporary Arts.

Re:  Things to do CLOSE to San Diego.  8^)

Is anyone familiar with the policies regarding visiting Mexico?    I'll
be hanging around the weekend after USENIX, and would like to roadtrip
to Tijuana for a day ..  Is it OK to drive rental cars into Mexico,
etc?   How far is it?   We northerners are only familiar with how
to get into Canada. . 8^)

	-Jeff

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dyer@spdcc.COM (Steve Dyer) (01/20/89)

In article <10741@shamash.cdc.com> jwabik@shamash.cdc.com (Jeff Wabik) writes:
>Is anyone familiar with the policies regarding visiting Mexico?    I'll
>be hanging around the weekend after USENIX, and would like to roadtrip
>to Tijuana for a day ..  Is it OK to drive rental cars into Mexico,
>etc?   How far is it?

The Mexican border is only a short car trip from San Diego proper; if my memory
serves, it must be less than 20 min away.

In general, car insurance and rental car contracts are not valid
in Mexico.  However, there are acres of parking lots on the US side of
the border designed to accomodate day travellers, who park and then walk
across the border.

You won't need a passport or a visa, though you should have proper
identification.

>We northerners are only familiar with how
>to get into Canada. . 8^)

Prepare for a shock.  I never understood just how close to the surface
lay my bourgeois, protected roots until I took a day trip into Tijuana.
The poverty and squalor are overwhelming, and make the poor border
towns on the US side look like country clubs.  I couldn't understand
how US tourists could shop for bargains when there was poverty all
around.  Walking on Revolution Avenue, you can see the San Diego hills,
planted with neat suburban homes, rising over the border.  The social and
physical effects of an artificial political barrier were never so clear to me
before.

Of course, you just might like to go shopping...
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vancleef@amelia.nas.nasa.gov (Robert E. Van Cleef) (01/20/89)

In article <2452@spdcc.SPDCC.COM> dyer@ursa-major.spdcc.COM (Steve Dyer) writes:
>In article <10741@shamash.cdc.com> jwabik@shamash.cdc.com (Jeff Wabik) writes:
>>Is anyone familiar with the policies regarding visiting Mexico?    I'll
>>be hanging around the weekend after USENIX, and would like to roadtrip
>>to Tijuana for a day ..  Is it OK to drive rental cars into Mexico,
>>etc?   How far is it?
>
>The Mexican border is only a short car trip from San Diego proper; if my memory
>serves, it must be less than 20 min away.
The San Diego Trolly runs from downtown San Diego to the border crossing.
 .
 .
 .
>You won't need a passport or a visa, though you should have proper
>identification.
Unless you are a foriegn (to the USA) national.  My brother-in-law,
from West Germany, had a real bad time when he left his passport at
the house and took a day trip to TJ.  If you need a passport to get
into the US in the first place, you had better have it with you....
 .
 .
 .
Bob

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ag@elgar.UUCP (Keith Gabryelski) (01/20/89)

In article <10741@shamash.cdc.com> jwabik@shamash.cdc.com (Jeff Wabik) writes:
>Is anyone familiar with the policies regarding visiting Mexico?

As long as you have ID, you shouldn't have any problem.

>I'll
>be hanging around the weekend after USENIX, and would like to roadtrip
>to Tijuana for a day ..  Is it OK to drive rental cars into Mexico,
>etc?

You must check with your rental place.

There are several mex-insurance places that cost about 11 bucks for
full coverage (for the day).

>How far is it?

less than 20 minutes.

You might want to walk across the boarder.  It is much easier, and cab
fare, once you are across, in nil (2 bucks to Revolucion').

Also, driving across the boarder is an experience for the un-initiated
(not impossible, just interesting).

Pax, Keith
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jackson@adobe.COM (Curtis Jackson) (01/21/89)

In article <34@elgar.UUCP> ag@elgar.UUCP (Keith Gabryelski) writes:
}You might want to walk across the boarder.  It is much easier, and cab
}fare, once you are across, in nil (2 bucks to Revolucion').
}
}Also, driving across the boarder is an experience for the un-initiated
}(not impossible, just interesting).

First of all, it'll cost you $10 to park in the closest parking lot
(I did it over Christmas).  Secondly, a *CAB* to Revolucion!!!
It's only about a 6-block walk, ferchrissakes!

You ugly Americans!
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muller@sdcc7.ucsd.EDU (Keith Muller) (01/24/89)

There have been some very bad waits at the border this past week to get back
into the USA if you are driving (three hours wait is not uncommon). You
clearly want to take the trolley down and walk across if you are *just* going
to TJ.

	Keith Muller
	University of California, San Diego

hgp@lzaz.ATT.COM (H.PAGE) (01/25/89)

In article <34@elgar.UUCP>, ag@elgar.UUCP (Keith Gabryelski) writes:
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> >I'll
> >be hanging around the weekend after USENIX, and would like to roadtrip
> >to Tijuana for a day ..  Is it OK to drive rental cars into Mexico,
> >etc?
> 
> You must check with your rental place.
	.
	.
I was in San Diego several months ago, and to rented a car for a
drive around the Baja. Here's what happened:

	1) Only one American rental car company would allow their
	   cars into Mexico (Alamo, or some other ``off'' brand, I
	   believe). But they wanted approximately $60/day, but it
	   didn't matter since they were out of cars.

	   Note that if you drive across, the wait to get back to the
	   US on Sunday after noon was perhaps 2-3 hours. I walked
	   across in five minutes.

	2) I ended up staying in downtown San Diego, so I simply
	   took the trolley to the border (a delight!) and once across,
	   took a taxi to the downtown Avis location where I had
	   previously reserved a VW Bug (!) for $30/day (72 (48?)
	   hours in advance). I had to wait an hour for them to
	   get the car from the airport, so next time I'll go to
	   the Avis counter at the airport instead. Money can be
	   changed right as you get off the trolley before you
	   cross the border.

	3) I drove south to Ensinada, then south east to a small
	   town on the Gulf of California, San Phillipe (sp?) where
	   I spent the night. I HIGHLY recommend this place with beautiful
	   beaches and fantastic seafood restaurants on the waterfront.

	   On the way, I was pulled over by the Mexican Army, complete
	   with soldiers with submachine guns, and they searched the
	   whole car for drugs (but were very nice about it).

	   Also, especially if you don't speak Spanish (I don't), be
	   careful that you don't get short changed when you buy gasoline.

	4) The next morning it was back north to the Mexican town of
	   ???? (er, its the big town south of the Arizona border), then
	   west through the mountains (absolutely beautiful) back to Tijauna.

	5) Get a good map of Tiajauna, its easy to get lost. I finally
	   found the rental car place, got a taxi to the border, walked
	   across, the back to San Diego again via the trolley.

	6) Thanks to netnews posters for the info that got me started!

The bottom line: The moment I checked in to the fancy-shmancy hotel in
San Deigo, I wanted to go back!

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wilson@vangogh.Berkeley.EDU (James E. Wilson) (01/26/89)

In article <381@lzaz.ATT.COM> hgp@lzaz.ATT.COM (H.PAGE) writes:
>I was in San Diego several months ago, and to rented a car for a
>drive around the Baja. Here's what happened:
>
>	3) I drove south to Ensinada, then south east to a small
>	   town on the Gulf of California, San Phillipe (sp?) where
>	   I spent the night. I HIGHLY recommend this place with beautiful
>	   beaches and fantastic seafood restaurants on the waterfront.

Without a Mexican tourist card, you can visit any border town, and also the
city of Ensenada (largest Baja seaport, 60 miles south of TIjuana), provided
you stay less than 72 hours.

Otherwise, you must first obtain a Mexican tourist card.  This card is required
for a trip to San Felipe.  Although it is highly unlikely that anyone will ever
ask to see your tourist card, they are officially required, and hence it is
strongly recommended that you carry one with you.

The cards are free, and can be obtained at any Mexican consulate or tourist
office.  AAA (American Automobile Association) members can get one at any
California AAA office.  You must show a valid passport or a birth certificate
to get the card.  Also, read the regulations concerning the card, as I 
believe they are supposed to be validated when you enter Mexico.

And don't forget, most American auto insurance is not valid in Mexico.  So
if you are driving into Mexico, buy Mexican insurance BEFORE you cross the
border.   (AAA members can buy Mexican insurance, by the day, at any southern
California AAA office).

The above information was extracted from my 1987 edition of the AAA Baja 
California tourbook.

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ericb@athertn.Atherton.COM (Eric Black) (01/26/89)

For those folks who are interested in a New England contradance, and
will still be around, there will be one in San Diego on Friday night,
Feb. 3.  For those who don't know what a contradance is:

   1) it has nothing at all to do with politics, Ollie North, et al
   2) it has been characterized as
          "The Most Fun You Can Have With Your Clothes On"

It's an American folk dance form which is a descendent of English country
dancing.  The term "contra" derives from the dance formation, which is
two opposing lines, dancers standing opposite their partner ("contra"
to each other).  If you've ever seen a "Virginia Reel", it is a kind
of contradance.  You could also think of it as sort of like a square
dance "un-bent" into a line.

The dance will be held at:
    The Polish American Hall
    1934  30th St.
    San Diego

And will start at 8:00 PM.  I am told admission is $3.50.
Live music (*always* live music at a contradance!) will be provided
by the Shimsa Gael Contradance Band, with calling by Eric Black from
San Francisco, ex-New Hampshire (hey, that name sounds familiar :-).

Directions from Mission Valley area:
    East on I-8 to I-805 South
    Take University Ave. off-ramp (might also be called "North Park Way")
    Go east to 30th St., turn left (south), follow jigs and jogs for
       over a mile until Cedar, jog right, left, and park.
    
I should have some maps available if you can find me at the conference.
Leave a note on the message board for me.

See you there!


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arnold@apollo.COM (Ken Arnold) (01/29/89)

In article <27736@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU> wilson@vangogh.Berkeley.EDU.UUCP (James E. Wilson) writes:
>Without a Mexican tourist card, you can visit any border town, and also the
>city of Ensenada (largest Baja seaport, 60 miles south of TIjuana), provided
>you stay less than 72 hours.

Non U.S. Citizens should take note -- you can get into Mexico just as easily
as a U.S. citizen, but when you try to return, US Immigration is going to
be very sticky.  It is not uncommon for visiting people on single entry visas
to get themselves stuck south of the border because nobody told them there
might be a problem.  Make sure you can get back in before you leave.

		Ken Arnold

lawrence@jarsun1.UUCP (mark lawrence) (02/03/89)

in our Friend to the South:

} 	3) I drove south to Ensinada, then south east to a small
} 	   town on the Gulf of California, San Phillipe (sp?) where

That's Ensenada and San Felipe.  Just in case you look for them on the
map.
  
} 	   On the way, I was pulled over by the Mexican Army, complete
} 	   with soldiers with submachine guns, and they searched the
} 	   whole car for drugs (but were very nice about it).

Not really the army; Federales.  A.K.A. the Green Angels (Los Angeles
Verde).  Just your basic local friendly neighborhood Federal Cops.

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