eugene@eos.UUCP (Eugene Miya) (07/14/89)
In article <1S3gCM#zOlw6=ggw@wolves.uucp> ggw@wolves.UUCP (Gregory G. Woodbury) writes: >In article <1989Jul7.183147.7129@sq.sq.com> msb@sq.com (Mark Brader) writes: >>> If people want more good papers, they should start submitting them. >> >>But what people want is good papers written by *other* people! >>They already know about their own work... > Besides that, the USENIX Call for Participation lists the "themes" >for the meetings, and my problems don't seem to match the recent themes. Erik Fair and I were talking about this the other day. The better papers now go to the Workshops. He thought one great conference could be made by selecting the best papers from each of the workshops and repeating them. Just so long as the Workshops themselves can stay small. Another gross generalization from --eugene miya, NASA Ames Research Center, eugene@aurora.arc.nasa.gov resident cynic at the Rock of Ages Home for Retired Hackers: "You trust the `reply' command with all those different mailers out there?" "If my mail does not reach you, please accept my apology." {ncar,decwrl,hplabs,uunet}!ames!eugene Live free or die.
rsalz@bbn.com (Rich Salz) (07/15/89)
In <4334@eos.UUCP> eugene@eos.UUCP (Eugene Miya) writes: >Erik Fair and I were talking about this the other day. >The better papers now go to the Workshops. >He thought one great conference could be made by selecting the best >papers from each of the workshops and repeating them. >as the Workshops themselves can stay small. Peter Honeyman proposed this at the open meeting with the Board at Baltimore meeting, shortly after several others made the same observation as Erik. Hmm, just like calculus... /r$ -- Please send comp.sources.unix-related mail to rsalz@uunet.uu.net. Use a domain-based address or give alternate paths, or you may lose out.
brent@capmkt.COM (Brent Chapman) (07/17/89)
eugene@eos.UUCP (Eugene Miya) writes: >Erik Fair and I were talking about this the other day. >The better papers now go to the Workshops. >He thought one great conference could be made by selecting the best >papers from each of the workshops and repeating them. Just so long >as the Workshops themselves can stay small. Sounds like a _very_ good idea to me... If the author is willing, is there any reason _not_ to present a paper at the main conference just because it has already been presented at a workshop? -Brent -- Brent Chapman Capital Market Technology, Inc. Computer Operations Manager 1995 University Ave., Suite 390 brent@capmkt.com Berkeley, CA 94704 {apple,lll-tis,uunet}!capmkt!brent Phone: 415/540-6400
jsq@longway.TIC.COM (John S. Quarterman) (07/19/89)
In article <4334@eos.UUCP>, eugene@eos.UUCP (Eugene Miya) writes: ... > Erik Fair and I were talking about this the other day. > The better papers now go to the Workshops. > > He thought one great conference could be made by selecting the best > papers from each of the workshops and repeating them. Just so long > as the Workshops themselves can stay small. ... As others have pointed out, this was discussed at the open meeting with the board in Baltimore. There's been no formal decision on it, but everybody on the board seemed favorable, and I believe we've been recommending that workshop chairs encourage such submissions and that conference chairs consider them. There are no plans at the moment for a whole conference made up of such papers, but that will be among the possibilities discussed at the next board meeting (I'll bring it up if nobody else does). John Quarterman <jsq@usenix.org>
fair@Apple.COM (Erik E. Fair) (07/21/89)
To be fair, I heard the idea from Steve Bellovin, who presumably attended the open board meeting, and heard Peter's suggestion. I've just been spreading it around a little, by word of mouth... "this is a job for netnews!" Erik E. Fair apple!fair fair@apple.com
rsalz@bbn.com (Rich Salz) (07/21/89)
In <33329@apple.Apple.COM> fair@Apple.COM (Erik E. Fair) writes:
=To be fair, I heard the idea from Steve Bellovin, who presumably
=attended the open board meeting, and heard Peter's suggestion. I've
=just been spreading it around a little, by word of mouth...
And Brian Kantor was mouthing something like it at the San Diego
Usenix six months earlier. Or perhaps he was just repeating Harris's
lament. (Go read your comp.mail.maps README file :-)
(For those just coming in: "the idea" is to have the best workshop
papers during the year presented at the Winter conference.)
= "this is a job for netnews!"
Indeed.
/r$
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Use a domain-based address or give alternate paths, or you may lose out.jordan@Morgan.COM (Jordan Hayes) (07/21/89)
Erik E. Fair <fair@Apple.COM> writes:
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To be fair ...
That comes easily to Erik :-)
/jordan