[comp.edu] Where to find classroom space

wayne@fmsrl7.UUCP (//ichael R. //ayne) (01/16/88)

	A local, private college has solved their fluctating enrollment
manner in an innovative way.  Since I had not heard of this before and 
would not have thought of it myself, I thought I would post it here.  I
realize that there may well be practical considerations why it will not
work for all but, perhaps, someone will benefit.

	What they have done is to lease office space from a nearby complex.
This has the advantage of being easily discarded when enrollment drops as
opposed to on-campus buildings.  Classes have not started so I do not know
how the students will react (although the school is business orientated).

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ddl@beach.cis.ufl.edu (Don Lewis) (01/18/88)

The local community college here has tried the same thing, leasing space
from a local mall which has been pretty much abandoned.  The leases are
short enough that the college doesn't have extended expenses if its
enrollment drops, and the mall doesn't have to worry about having to turn
down a major client because of lack of space.  This seems like the ideal
solution to me.  Also, since the mall is located more centrally than the
college campus itself, the students have a much easier time getting to
class.  As a junior college, many of the students are older people who
hold full-time jobs and they can now make it easily to classes after
work.  Anyone else heard more about this?

Don Lewis

elg@killer.UUCP (Eric Green) (01/18/88)

in article <10225@ufcsv.cis.ufl.EDU>, ddl@beach.cis.ufl.edu (Don Lewis) says:
> The local community college here has tried the same thing, leasing space
> from a local mall which has been pretty much abandoned.  

Leasing external space seems really good for dealing with a temporary influx
of students (e.g. into a "faddish" major, such as CS 5 years ago, or Business
Administration today). It's interesting to note that the ancestors of our
college and universities started out as students renting out rooms and hiring
professors to teach them en masse.  But still, I wonder... how many larger
colleges and universities are built anywhere near office towers or malls?
Running a bus system between a main campus and an auxiliary campus is
expensive, cumbersome, and results in scheduling nightmares (visions of
students riding buses an hour a day to take 3 hours of classes per day, and
spending another 2 hours waiting for the bus).

Considering that many colleges and universities were originally built in the
suburbs (although the city has probably grown about them since), such leasing
doesn't seem like it'd be viable (because of the transportation and scheduling
difficulties).  The probable exception would be for community colleges, many
of which are located near downtown areas anyhow in order to be close to their
students' workplaces. 

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ddl@beach.cis.ufl.edu (Don Lewis) (01/19/88)

To expand on the comments someone else made in another article on this
subject (for some reason this system won't include the article), I ten
d to disagree with the idea that leasing space off-campus is not 
feasible.  Here at UF and also at Univ. of Miami, the campuses are located
close to office and/or retail space, much of it within walking distance
of the actual campus.  In the case of the local community college,

the deal really worked out well for both the malil, the college, and the
city.  The mall was able to rent out unused space, the college was able
to provide classes without building additional space, and the city had
lots of extra riders on its bus system.  The students definitely benefitted
since they had city bus service directly to their classes.  So what if you
have to leave a little earlier to fit the bus schedule; here at UF people
are used to getting to campus as much as 2 hours before a class if they
want to find a parking spot.

I can think of several other colleges and universities this would work
at as well.

-Don Lewis
University of Florida