[comp.edu] More on Thinking Faster

wlieberm@teknowledge-vaxc.ARPA (William Lieberman) (07/29/88)

As Jonathan Harris notes in his comment on my comments, environmental-
genetic interactions are yet even more complicated than he felt
I got across in my comments.

He suggested, for example, that a scientist examining a youth with a vision
problem which is correctable, but who for some reason has never obtained
eyeglasses, would conclude the cause of the vision defect is genetic, whereas
(if I remember his example correctly) had the youth had glasses, a scientist
might conclude, let's say the youth performed baseball-well (my example)
very well, that due to the youth's extraordinary visual system, (he hits so
well), this is obviously genetic.

To complicate it even further, it may very well be that even his vision defect
was due to an environmental factor. In fact, there is some recent evidence,
published in Science within the last year (I forget which issue) where
in controlled experiments with some birds (pigeons??), by controlling the
maximum distance the birds could see (by putting a kind of covered visual
"world" around them - maybe a sphere or some shape like that - I forget),
they were able to induce lengthening of the eyeball ( which is well
known to exist in the vast majority of near-sighted people, thus being
responsible for focus problems at a distance [the focus point is thus
now in front of the retina because the eyevall is too long]). Thus, near-
sightedness (myopia) may, after all, have a strong enviornmental component-
the authors speculated on reading behavior at an early age - not enough
variation in visual behavior. Kids should throw down the book for awhile and
go frog searching - my example. (Of course, these findings, for the
time being, only support conjectures about myopia - it is still a good
deal aways from being demonstrated that the conjectures are true.)

Thus, to me, and I think Jonathan's comment only butresses what I have
said before, the only way to learn the truth in these matters is
to do a direct physical examination of the behavior, molecule-type-by-
molecule-type of all elements involved to see the unaffected or affected
reaction of these molecules to all sorts of stimulation (read: enviornmental
influences and genetic influences).  A major problem right now is we don't
know what to look for, even if we have the power to examine to the detail
needed (and I'm not so sure about that, either.) But I believe, in principle,
it's possible.

Bill Lieberman