[net.unix-wizards] Another uvax question

root%bostonu.csnet@csnet-relay.arpa (BostonU SysMgr) (05/17/85)

Ok, the opinions are coming in, mostly from people who seem to
like them. Now two specific questions:

Everyone alludes to bad I/O (read: disk) performance, can
someone be a little more specific (don't feel you have to
give high-quality benchmarks, just some reasonable examples,
comparisons, of course, a benchmark would be nice, like if you're
the only one on the system maybe write a program to read 1000 blocks
and another to write 1000 blocks in a tight loop and just send us
the output of the 'time' command.)

Second question, does it or does it not support TCP/IP, particularly
on ethernet but if it does a list of supported devices would be nice
and if it doesn't will it in the near future?

Thanks in advance,

	-Barry Shein, Boston University

craig@loki (Craig Partridge) (05/17/85)

    I don't have a MicroVAX II but have some notes from a detailed
technical presentation made in the Boston area yesterday.  My initial
reaction is that it looks very nice, and is competitively priced.

    The disks are surprisingly slow -- average seek times mentioned were
49ms on the RD52 (31 MB) and 30ms on the RD53 (71MB).  I think the moral
of the story is get lots of memory (you can get up to 9MB)-- swapping out
pages will hurt.  They will eventually (in few months or so) have a
rackmountable uVAX II with a KDA-50 board (Q-bus version of UDA-50) so
you can attach RA-81's.

    Yes there is TCP/IP, using a DEQNA board.  DEC is supporting
configurable binary kernels on the uVAX II (I gather they didn't on
the uVAX I) and you can put TCP/IP in or leave it out as you wish.

    One should also note that Ultrix-32M has some minor peices missing
because the disks were too small to comfortably fit all of UNIX.  They
didn't provide a complete list, but here's a partial one.  No news,
games, or user contributed software.  Also, no troff (just nroff) and
no eqn.  These latter deletions because they say they hadn't found a
device to support troff for yet (??!).  Oh yes, it comes on 31 floppies,  or
one cartridge tape (DEC has developed another cartridge tape system).

    I may have gotten something wrong -- I'm working from notes scribbled as
they were throwing information at us.  If so, I hope the DEC guys reading
this will send out a correction.

Craig Partridge
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rsp@decvax.UUCP (Ricky Palmer) (05/18/85)

TCP/IP (ala ethernet) is supported.

						Ricky Palmer - UEG