[comp.edu] information wanted

beech@ms.uky.edu (Wayne Beech) (07/19/89)

Hello,

I work for the University of Kentucky computing center and am currently on a
committee to evaluate/recommend the course that instructional computing should
take over the next few years.  The main point of uncertainity deals with how
much computing should be done on PCs, how much on a centralized mainframe, and
how much on departmental systems.  I would like to get descriptions from 
other universities as to what the instructional computing environment "looks"
like; in particular, 1.) what types of machines do you have and in what
quantities? 2.) how are these machines connected? 3.) what types of applications
are run on the various machines?  4.) what advantages/disadvantages do you
see with your current setup? 5.) how is the licensing of software handled?
If I get sufficent responses I will summarize this data and post it back to
this group.  Thank you.
 
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siegman@sierra.Stanford.EDU (Anthony E. Siegman) (07/20/89)

How to develop a campus computer environment:

1.  Build a campus network.  Ethernet, with Ethertips for those who
want low-cost access from PCs, is a good choice.  Make it free (like
the sidewalks and roads on campus), at least up to the building
exterior walls.  Let each department decide, fund and install what it
wants inside its building.

2.  Get a central Unix machine or two (DEC, Sun, whatever), fairly
small, to handle mail and access to outside networks.  Run 'em on the
lowest-overhead basis possible; use STANDARD machines, STANDARD
(largely free) software; do NOT let any techies who want the latest,
glitziest toys make the decisions.

3.  Get a discount plan going, preferably in your Bookstore, with the
best possible discount or consortium prices for Apple (Macintosh) and
IBM PC clones, plus site licenses (or better, heavily discounted
prices for on-campus purchasers) for major software: two or three of
the best text editing/desktop publishing packages like Word, WriteNow,
TeXtures, ditto spreadsheets, major languages, etc.

4.  DON'T do ANYTHING ELSE centrally.  Provide information, access to
discount prices, and transmitted downward funding TO THE POTENTIAL
USERS AT THE LOWEST POSSIBLE WORKING LEVEL; and "let a thousand
flowers bloom".  The users will soon find out what THEY want, and will
transmit the information to each other.  A few wrong turns or blind
alleys by individual purchasers can never be as disastrous as a wrong
choice by an "informed" or "expert" central committee committing the
whole university.

5.  Don't have anything to do with NeXT.

[P.S. -- I'm dead serious about item 4; I've seen the recommended
procedure and the unrecommended procedure both happen, several times,
on several campusesand I'm dead serious about this "contrarian"
advice.  But unfortunately your central Computer Center will never let
it happen (unless they, or someone iyour central administration, is
extraordinarily wise).  Empires to be built, you know...]

--Professor A. E. Siegman
--Director, Edward L. Ginzton Lab
--Stanford University

usenet@cps3xx.UUCP (Usenet file owner) (07/25/89)

 Professor A. E. Siegman writes:

>  ...
>  5.  Don't  have anything to do with NeXT. 

Why is that?


Joel Dujsik   dujsik@frith.msu.edu   Michigan State University