[comp.dcom.lans] Looking for means to connect token-rings via T1

alan@cunixc.columbia.edu (Alan Crosswell) (01/07/88)

I'm looking for suggestions on connecting two token-ring networks that
are located in geographically distant buildings that can only be
connected by leased T1 circuits.

The token-rings are to be used for a few purposes:

- Connect PS/2's running as SNA 3270's to an IBM 3090 at the main site
  running your basic MVS/CICS type of system.  The 3090 connects to
  the ring via (many) 3174 control units.

- Some PC LAN stuff (like Novell).

- TCP/IP. (There will be gateways to various IP ethernets, etc.)

In other words, the rings speak multiple network families.  So, is there
either a remote token-ring bridge or a multi-protocol router that supports
SNA and IP?  

The Proteon p4200 does IP, DECNET and XNS routing, but not SNA.

I have a document from U-B issued in Feb. '87 that talks about remote
token-ring data link bridges but my sales rep tells me the product
does not yet exist.

Wellfleet docs only talk about ethernet.

Can you make an RT PC shove IP and SNA down the same SDLC link (and
can it handle T1)?  What about putting the RT's in front of a pair of
ethernet data link bridges (like the vitalink)?  It's gross, but IP
routing will work that way.  Will SNA?

Is the only solution at this point in time to have T1 muxes with
remote 3174's hung off the remote token-ring to get the SNA terminal
access to the 3090 and a pair of p4200's on another piece of the mux
for the IP routing?

A second related question has to do with connecting a large number of
rings (30) to the main ring that the 3090 is on.  It looks like it's
possible to use fiber repeaters and have each of the 30 rings appear
in the central location so that all the bridges can be centrally
maintained, secured, etc.  Does anybody make a ring bridge that you
can plug into more than two rings?  It seems kind of absurd to have a
room with 30 PC's stacked on top of each other (although that's better
than having them located in 30 seperate hard to reach equipment
closets).  Again, a multi-protocol router sounds like it would be
better than a data link bridge but SNA has to be one of the things it
can route.

Thanks in advance for any help you can offer.  Feel free to tell me
that I don't know what I'm talking about (especially with respect to
SNA).  I don't.

Alan Crosswell
User Services, Center for Computing Activities
Columbia University