[comp.dcom.lans] newer DEC LAN Bridges losing their

alan@cunixc.columbia.edu (Alan Crosswell) (05/05/88)

Has anyone else seen the situation where a DEC Lanbridge 100's forwarding
database seems to get messed up?  The symptom is that users on one side
of the bridge can initiate a telnet connection to a remote host (the bridge
learns the forwarding for both hosts) but the reverse fails (once the given
forwading entry has timed out).   In other words, the bridge seems to
learn only from one side.  The only things I have been able to correlate
this with so far is that the bridges that this happens to are running the
newer DEBET ROM version:

Bridge Characteristics as of    4-MAY-1988 19:26:08
Bridge   PSYCH,   Address   08-00-2B-08-53-B6

Bridge id (priority/address):           128/08-00-2B-08-53-B6 
Bridge type (executing):                DEBET   
Firmware version (executing):           2.0   
Forwarding entries - max volatile:      8059        
Forwarding entries - max non-volatile:  117         
Total data line entries:                2     
Current highest line number:            2     
Downline load request software flag:    Disabled 
Downline load file identification:                
Downline load request hardware flag:    Disabled 
ROM Bridge type:                        DEBET   
ROM firmware version:                   2.0   

Also, when I dump out the forwarding database from the ill bridge before
reinitializing it, the forwarding table has a lot of zero entries at
the end which do not normally appear there:

Known Forwarding Physical Entries as of  4-MAY-1988 19:11:43
Bridge   PHYSICS,   Address   08-00-2B-04-40-5A

Physical address  Outbound  Last Seen   Destination    Set by   Auto- 
                  Line      On Line                             Delete 

AA-00-04-00-BC-04      2       N/A        NORMAL      LEARNING   YES 
AA-00-04-00-BB-04      2       N/A        NORMAL      LEARNING   YES 
AA-00-04-00-BA-04      2       N/A        NORMAL      LEARNING   YES 
AA-00-04-00-B9-04      2       N/A        NORMAL      LEARNING   YES 
AA-00-04-00-B8-04      1       N/A        NORMAL      LEARNING   YES 
AA-00-04-00-B7-04      1       N/A        NORMAL      LEARNING   YES 
AA-00-04-00-B6-04      1       N/A        NORMAL      LEARNING   YES 
AA-00-04-00-B2-04      1       N/A        NORMAL      LEARNING   YES 
AA-00-04-00-B0-04      1       N/A        NORMAL      LEARNING   YES 
AA-00-04-00-AF-04      1       N/A        NORMAL      LEARNING   YES 
AA-00-04-00-AE-04      1       N/A        NORMAL      LEARNING   YES 
AA-00-04-00-AD-04      1       N/A        NORMAL      LEARNING   YES 
AA-00-04-00-AC-04      1       N/A        NORMAL      LEARNING   YES 
AA-00-04-00-AB-04      1       N/A        NORMAL      LEARNING   YES 
AA-00-04-00-A9-04      1       N/A        NORMAL      LEARNING   YES 
AA-00-04-00-A7-04      1       N/A        NORMAL      LEARNING   YES 
AA-00-04-00-A6-04      1       N/A        NORMAL      LEARNING   YES 
AA-00-04-00-88-04      1       N/A        NORMAL      LEARNING   YES 
AA-00-04-00-85-04      1       N/A        NORMAL      LEARNING   YES 
AA-00-04-00-84-04      1       N/A        NORMAL      LEARNING   YES 
AA-00-04-00-83-04      1       N/A        NORMAL      LEARNING   YES 
AA-00-04-00-82-04      1       N/A        NORMAL      LEARNING   YES 
AA-00-04-00-81-04      1       N/A        NORMAL      LEARNING   YES 
AA-00-04-00-80-04      1       N/A        NORMAL      LEARNING   YES 
AA-00-04-00-7F-04      1       N/A        NORMAL      LEARNING   YES 
AA-00-04-00-6E-04      1       N/A        NORMAL      LEARNING   YES 
AA-00-04-00-6D-04      1       N/A        NORMAL      LEARNING   YES 
AA-00-04-00-6C-04      1       N/A        NORMAL      LEARNING   YES 
AA-00-04-00-6B-04      1       N/A        NORMAL      LEARNING   YES 
AA-00-04-00-66-04      1       N/A        NORMAL      LEARNING   YES 
AA-00-04-00-50-04      1       N/A        NORMAL      LEARNING   YES 
AA-00-04-00-4F-04      1       N/A        NORMAL      LEARNING   YES 
AA-00-04-00-4E-04      1       N/A        NORMAL      LEARNING   YES 
AA-00-04-00-4D-04      1       N/A        NORMAL      LEARNING   YES 
AA-00-04-00-4C-04      1       N/A        NORMAL      LEARNING   YES 
AA-00-04-00-4A-04      1       N/A        NORMAL      LEARNING   YES 
AA-00-04-00-49-04      1       N/A        NORMAL      LEARNING   YES 
AA-00-04-00-48-04      1       N/A        NORMAL      LEARNING   YES 
AA-00-04-00-47-04      1       N/A        NORMAL      LEARNING   YES 
AA-00-04-00-44-04      1       N/A        NORMAL      LEARNING   YES 
AA-00-04-00-43-04      1       N/A        NORMAL      LEARNING   YES 
AA-00-04-00-40-04      1       N/A        NORMAL      LEARNING   YES 
AA-00-04-00-3E-04      1       N/A        NORMAL      LEARNING   YES 
AA-00-04-00-3D-04      1       N/A        NORMAL      LEARNING   YES 
AA-00-04-00-09-04      1       N/A        NORMAL      LEARNING   YES 
AA-00-04-00-08-04      1       N/A        NORMAL      LEARNING   YES 
AA-00-04-00-06-04      1       N/A        NORMAL      LEARNING   YES 
AA-00-03-01-0D-EE      1       N/A        NORMAL      LEARNING   YES 
80-00-10-90-15-AA      1       N/A        NORMAL      LEARNING   YES 
80-00-10-90-15-79      1       N/A        NORMAL      LEARNING   YES 
80-00-10-90-14-DB      1       N/A        NORMAL      LEARNING   YES 
80-00-10-90-14-3F      1       N/A        NORMAL      LEARNING   YES 
80-00-10-90-11-C4      1       N/A        NORMAL      LEARNING   YES 
80-00-10-90-11-04      1       N/A        NORMAL      LEARNING   YES 
80-00-10-90-10-9C      1       N/A        NORMAL      LEARNING   YES 
80-00-10-90-10-6C      1       N/A        NORMAL      LEARNING   YES 
80-00-10-90-0F-BC      1       N/A        NORMAL      LEARNING   YES 
80-00-10-90-0F-75      1       N/A        NORMAL      LEARNING   YES 
80-00-10-90-0E-B7      1       N/A        NORMAL      LEARNING   YES 
80-00-10-90-0D-A7      1       N/A        NORMAL      LEARNING   YES 
80-00-10-90-0B-C1      1       N/A        NORMAL      LEARNING   YES 
80-00-10-90-09-37      1       N/A        NORMAL      LEARNING   YES 
08-00-89-E0-02-DA      1       N/A        NORMAL      LEARNING   YES 
08-00-89-CC-CC-CC      1       N/A        NORMAL      LEARNING   YES 
08-00-7C-00-02-C7      1       N/A        NORMAL      LEARNING   YES 
08-00-2B-22-00-00   NONE       N/A          NONE          SELF    NO 
08-00-2B-08-BF-98      1       N/A        NORMAL      LEARNING   YES 
08-00-2B-07-06-24      1       N/A        NORMAL      LEARNING   YES 
08-00-2B-06-57-ED      1       N/A        NORMAL      LEARNING   YES 
08-00-2B-04-F8-D4      1       N/A        NORMAL      LEARNING   YES 
08-00-2B-04-51-CD      1       N/A        NORMAL      LEARNING   YES 
08-00-2B-04-40-5A   NONE       N/A        NORMAL          SELF    NO 
08-00-2B-02-9F-04      1       N/A        NORMAL      LEARNING   YES 
08-00-2B-02-68-23      1       N/A        NORMAL      LEARNING   YES 
08-00-2B-02-62-AE      1       N/A        NORMAL      LEARNING   YES 
08-00-2B-02-34-7B      1       N/A        NORMAL      LEARNING   YES 
08-00-2B-02-01-EA      1       N/A        NORMAL      LEARNING   YES 
08-00-2B-00-12-E2      1       N/A        NORMAL      LEARNING   YES 
08-00-20-01-AF-40      1       N/A        NORMAL      LEARNING   YES 
08-00-20-01-AE-74      1       N/A        NORMAL      LEARNING   YES 
08-00-20-01-7F-FA      1       N/A        NORMAL      LEARNING   YES 
08-00-20-01-76-89      1       N/A        NORMAL      LEARNING   YES 
08-00-20-01-67-54      1       N/A        NORMAL      LEARNING   YES 
00-00-00-00-00-00   NONE       N/A        NORMAL      LEARNING   YES 
00-00-00-00-00-00   NONE       N/A        NORMAL      LEARNING   YES 
00-00-00-00-00-00   NONE       N/A        NORMAL      LEARNING   YES 
00-00-00-00-00-00   NONE       N/A        NORMAL      LEARNING   YES 
00-00-00-00-00-00   NONE       N/A        NORMAL      LEARNING   YES 
00-00-00-00-00-00   NONE       N/A        NORMAL      LEARNING   YES 
00-00-00-00-00-00   NONE       N/A        NORMAL      LEARNING   YES 
00-00-00-00-00-00   NONE       N/A        NORMAL      LEARNING   YES 
00-00-00-00-00-00   NONE       N/A        NORMAL      LEARNING   YES 

We have been having the usual number of network jams, etc. caused by
misconfigured IP broadcast addresses but that never seemed to cause
these kinds of problems with our older 1.0 LAN Bridges.  It is only
our newer 2.0 bridges that seem to be losing their minds.  Has anyone
else seen this or know if DEC has come out with some ECO for the 2.0
bridge?

/a