[comp.dcom.lans] DECnet on Symbolics

abstine@sun.soe.clarkson.edu (Arthur Stine) (11/29/88)

From vn Tue Nov 29 09:43:17 1988
Subject: Re: Need configuration info for various DEC ethernet widgets
From: abstine@sun.soe.clarkson.edu (Arthur Stine)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.lans
References: <1749ANKGC@CUNYVM>
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From article <1749ANKGC@CUNYVM>, by ANKGC@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU (Anil Khullar):
>     My experience frm DELNIand DEMPR has been horrible: I have had the
>  the unfortunate experience to hook a Symbolics machine to a DECNET via
> DELNI.  I wanted some info on increasing the TMO's and increase the packets
> to the level that a CHAOSnet (neti:***) function count could handle
> some open files on the VAX. All I got from a standard colorado hotline
> was *gee* I do not know what the other (symblics) machine handles.
> look at NCP > SHOW NODE  EXECUTOR
> 
> Frankly, I think the support *su**s.  Not being a hardware oriented guy
> I'd say that it is easier to run TCP/IP on top of DECNET and hook nonVMS
> amchines on the same net. (BTW TCP/IP from CMU-TEK is a cheap solution
> and reasonably worthwile looking into...)
> 
The DELNI and DEMPR have nothing (read: nothing) to do specifically with 
DECnet or any other protocol for that matter. You could connect the machine
via TCP/IP protocols and the hardware is the same. The DELNI is basically
8 transceivers in a box and the DEMPR is a thinwire multiport repeater. Period.
They do NOTHING but pass bits... just because they're made by DEC doesn't
mean they have ANY relation with DECnet.

As far as support, how could DEC possibly know what the DECnet implementation
on the Symbolics supports... they didn't do the port!!! Its DECnet, sure, but
they didn't write it for the Symbolics... Try going back to Symbolics. They
probably won't know anything about it... their DECnet was most likely obtained
from Community... 

Jeez, I hate when people who don't know what they are talking about flame
someone or something just because they don't understand how something works.
Its people like you who give people the wrong impression of how things really
are. Check your facts before you flame...

art stine
sr network engineer
clarkson u