neerma@cod.NOSC.MIL (Merle A. Neer) (06/16/89)
We have PS/2's in user spaces IBM mainframes in the
basement and token rings on the way. We would like
to have sub-LANs backboned around the building.
The purpose of the sub-LANs is to achieve Novell
type LAN capability; i.e. file service; disk
service, print service; BUT would like to avoid the
secret protocol trap('X'Ware)....so I have become
interested in NFS since NFS seems to achieved a
somewhat standard place in the TCP hierarchy.
Our users are afraid of losing their 3270 capability;
terminal to mainframe.
I'm looking for a vendor that can give us LAN
capability on NFS on token ring (keeping the toke
ring fanatics happy)...yet also provide a 3270
emulation that works real good for the terminal to
mainframe stuff....and not lock us into any of
THEIR secret protcols......also, the NFS server
would ideally run on a PS/2.
Am I asking too much? Well, I'll settle for we have
a little now we'll give you the rest later....
Thanks,
Merle
neerma at nosc.miljbvb@ftp.COM (James Van Bokkelen) (06/16/89)
In article <1560@cod.NOSC.MIL>, neerma@cod.NOSC.MIL (Merle A. Neer) writes: > I'm looking for a vendor that can give us LAN > capability on NFS on token ring (keeping the toke > ring fanatics happy)...yet also provide a 3270 > emulation that works real good for the terminal to > mainframe stuff....and not lock us into any of > THEIR secret protcols......also, the NFS server > would ideally run on a PS/2. If the mainframe people will install a TCP/IP (they are available from IBM and aftermarket people for both VM and MVS), then you can use TCP/IP (which should be public enough) to do what you want. IBM, FTP Software and Excelan all have TN3270 for DOS, Sun, FTP Software and Beame & Whiteside all have NFS clients (sorry, no servers) for DOS, and IBM and FTP Software both support 802.5 via the ASI (which means that at least PC/TCP can use other vendors' ASI emulations). As far as NFS servers go, a couple of the 386 Unix vendors have NFS for their boxes, but check out their performance first (SysV streams is sometimes an obstacle to fast network applications). You could also use anything from an RT running 4.3 to a Vax to a Sun to a Pyramid, and I think there are mainframe NFSs on the way. -- James B. VanBokkelen 26 Princess St., Wakefield, MA 01880 FTP Software Inc. voice: (617) 246-0900 fax: (617) 246-0901
f0057@uafhp.uucp (James E. Ward) (06/20/89)
In article <677@ftp.COM>, jbvb@ftp.COM (James Van Bokkelen) writes: > In article <1560@cod.NOSC.MIL>, neerma@cod.NOSC.MIL (Merle A. Neer) writes: > > I'm looking for a vendor that can give us LAN > > capability on NFS on token ring (keeping the toke > > ring fanatics happy)...yet also provide a 3270 > > emulation that works real good for the terminal to > > mainframe stuff > > If the mainframe people will install a TCP/IP (they are available from > IBM and aftermarket people for both VM and MVS), then you can use > TCP/IP (which should be public enough) to do what you want. IBM, > You could also use anything from an RT running 4.3 > and I think there are mainframe NFSs on the way. > We have an AS/400 and lots of fat cable running around so that users can do 5250 emulation. We plan to have remote AS/400s in the future and would like to tie everything together in some fashion or another. Someone mentioned an RT as a file server/go-between for the PCs and 400. Is this a good way to go? I would have a dream setup where all the AS/400s could talk with all the PCs. Am I dreaming? Let me know of any solutions in the scope of reality. They are apparently ready to lay down some big loaves of bread, so don't let money slow your typing! James Ward f0057@uafhp.uucp (Your auto reply address will be wrong....)
jbvb@ftp.COM (James Van Bokkelen) (06/20/89)
In article <2615@cveg.uucp>, f0057@uafhp.uucp (James E. Ward) writes: > I would have a dream setup where all the AS/400s could talk with all the PCs. > Am I dreaming? Let me know of any solutions in the scope of reality. They > are apparently ready to lay down some big loaves of bread, so don't let money > slow your typing! We were recently looking at accounting systems, and IBM wanted to sell us an AS/400. We told them that TCP/IP was a requirement, and they sort of glitched. Once the salesperson understood what TCP/IP was, their first answer was a TCP/IP-to-SNA gateway from Mitek, which cost a lot. Their second answer was a box which required DDN-style-X.25 to talk to, and also cost a lot. They wouldn't tell us how much a 9370 cost, so we're now looking at Vaxen, but if you already own the AS/400s, you should be prepared to spend a large fraction (75%+) of the machine's cost on a gateway to anything outside of IBM's Superior Network Architecture. -- James B. VanBokkelen 26 Princess St., Wakefield, MA 01880 FTP Software Inc. voice: (617) 246-0900 fax: (617) 246-0901
wvanbeek@tippy.uucp (06/21/89)
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slf@well.UUCP (Sharon Lynne Fisher) (07/22/89)
>and Beame & Whiteside all have NFS clients (sorry, no servers) for >DOS, and IBM and FTP Software both support 802.5 via the ASI (which B&W said at Connectathon that they had a DOS NFS server, and that it would be out soon. I don't know if it actually shipped. >and I think there are mainframe NFSs on the way. IBM's announced one, and it should have been out by now, but a whole lot of their AIX stuff in general (including NFS for AIX on the PCs) got held up. But they have announced it. -- "Why should I let a loathsome little toad like you touch my breast when you haven't even read my books!" "Starstruck," by Elaine Lee