nesel@drynix.dfrf.nasa.gov (Mike Nesel) (09/30/89)
Would anyone care to comment on the advisability (or not) of
attaching a Novell network of PC's to a TCP/IP network of
workstations and mainframes?
Is it safe to use the (TCP/IP) Ethernet cable as the connection
medium for the Novell network? Or will the Novell protocol
clash with TCP/IP to such an extent that our workstations and
mainframes will all simultaneously emit clouds of smoke and
suddenly become very quiet?
Inquiring minds want to know.
Thank you.
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Mike Nesel nesel@elxsi.dfrf.nasa.gov ames!elxsi.dfrf.nasa.gov!nesel
Disclaimer: Opinions and statements herein are mine alone.paul@cscnj.csc.COM (Paul Moody) (10/03/89)
In article <NESEL.89Sep29162841@drynix.dfrf.nasa.gov>, nesel@drynix.dfrf.nasa.gov (Mike Nesel) writes: > Would anyone care to comment on the advisability (or not) of > attaching a Novell network of PC's to a TCP/IP network of > workstations and mainframes? > We run a Novell network bridged into a TCP/IP network, and run TCP/IP over Novell to talk to mainframes and minis. Using Excelan EXOS 205T cards, a MS-DOS based pc can run Novell and TCP/IP simultainiously. The only big problem is with dumb ethernet cards using NCSA Telnet. They cannot do both simultainously. With MS-Windows 386 I can have mutiple telnet sessions open while ftp'ing from UNIX to a Novell lan server. The only box we have been unable to get online with everything else is a MacII. -- Paul Moody UUCP: rutgers!cscnj!paul Computer Sciences Corporation # the opinions expressed are entirely imaginary #
sherk@umd5.umd.edu (Erik Sherk) (10/04/89)
In article <365@cscnj.csc.COM> paul@cscnj.csc.COM (Paul Moody) writes: >In article <NESEL.89Sep29162841@drynix.dfrf.nasa.gov>, nesel@drynix.dfrf.nasa.gov (Mike Nesel) writes: >> Would anyone care to comment on the advisability (or not) of >> attaching a Novell network of PC's to a TCP/IP network of >> workstations and mainframes? >> > >We run a Novell network bridged into a TCP/IP network, and run >TCP/IP over Novell to talk to mainframes and minis. > >Using Excelan EXOS 205T cards, a MS-DOS based pc can run >Novell and TCP/IP simultainiously. The only big problem is with >dumb ethernet cards using NCSA Telnet. They cannot do both >simultainously. I just pulled down the novell drivers for the FTP packet driver from omnigate.clarkson.edu. This allows you to share your network inerface (3c501, 3c503, 3c523, some WD cards and Novell cards) with other applications that support the FTP Packet Driver Spec. i.e. NCSA Telnet. I can now load telnet from a network drive and telnet anywhere on the internet. I think that this solution is superior to "gatewaying" (i.e. protocol translation) through the server because the server adds another point of failure. In addition, heavy ftp traffic through the server really bog it down. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Erik Sherk sherk@umd5.umd.edu Network Infrastructure Group (301) 454-0864 Computer Science Center University of Maryland