[comp.dcom.lans] Request for information - front-ending IBM 7171 with CISCO ASM

dd@ariel.unm.edu (dd) (12/08/89)

I am trying to front-end an IBM 7171 with a CISCO ASM.  I have
gotten it to work, but there are some performance problems.  Has
anyone out there done this thing, and could I please ask you some
questions?

Thanks in advance.

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Don Doerner				dd@ariel.unm.edu
University of New Mexico CIRT
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robert@trwind.UUCP (Robert W. Snyder) (12/15/89)

Robert Snyder
>
>I am trying to front-end an IBM 7171 with a CISCO ASM.  I have
>gotten it to work, but there are some performance problems.  Has
>anyone out there done this thing, and could I please ask you some
>questions?
>

I have not seen any responses on this that helped you with the 7171 problems
so I thought I would try to help by sharing the problems I recalled.

I developed a terminal server for TRW and I eventually had a field engineer
interface one to a 7171 in a milking machine fashion.  There were a few
problems I had to contend with.

	1. At the time the 7171 did not do xon/xoff flowcontrol properly
	   
	   Symptom: The network conection would appear to lock up or
	   have character loss.
	   
	   Analysis:
	   After looking at a lot of serial data analyzer output, I discovered
	   that when the terminal server flow controlled the 7171, the
	   7171 not only discontinued the transmission of normal data traffic
	   but also discontinued sending xons/xoffs, which caused it to
	   enter a "catch 22" state where both sides where flow-controlled
	   and neither could release flow-control until some action was
	   taken by the other or it would drop characters on the floor
	   because the 7171 refused to inform the terminal server that it
	   could not receive anymore characters.
	   
	   Resolution:
	   IBM fixed their code by offering an option to either allow
	   flowcontrolling of flowcontrol characters or a mode that
	   I needed to succeed that allowed flowcontrol characters to
	   be transmitted.

	2. The 7171 that I was interfacing to required that certain hardware
	   lines be asserted to transmit characters to the unit.  Once those
	   lines were asserted the 7171 began transmiting characters almost
	   instantly.

	   Symptom: The user would see a message the looked like this
	   "gin:" instead of "Login:" (I dont remember the actual message
	   but it was some sort of logon message)

	   Analysis:
	   When the hardware line were asserted the network link was not
	   quite up.  It was a couple character times off

	   Resolution:
	   I fixed my code.

	   I mention the second problem just because the 7171 was the only
	   device I ran into that exhibited this operation.

Disclaimer:  My experiences with the 7171 are specific to interfacing 
	     problems I experienced about 3 to 4 years ago.  I am not
	     an expert on the 7171, just good with terminal servers
	     and serial devices.




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