jonas@lkbpyr.UUCP (Jonas Heyman) (01/17/90)
Hello, Is there a solution to connect mail with "3+Open 3Com LAN" and UNIX mail. Any suggestions is welcome. Sincerely Jonas, -- -- jonas@lkbpyr.lkb.se
psrc@pegasus.ATT.COM (Paul S. R. Chisholm) (01/30/90)
< Krasny Oktyabr: the hunt is on, March 2, 1990 > In article <410@lkbpyr.UUCP>, jonas@lkbpyr.UUCP (Jonas Heyman) writes: > Is there a solution to connect mail with "3+Open 3Com LAN" and UNIX mail. Let's start with a massive disclaimer: the product I'm about to recommend is not only sold by my employer, it's written, maintained, and supported by my group. AT&T Mail PMX/STARMail is one of the e-mail products AT&T sells for MS-DOS PCs. It can tie together PCs with a DOS server running StarLAN, 3 Com, PC Network, and . . . um, at least one other LAN, but I can't remember which one off hand. We also sell versions for a Novell server, or a 3B2 or 6386 UNIX(R) server. It can also tie LANs together, and tie LANs to the AT&T Mail service and UNIX-based systems. The STARMail server can talk over an async line, using a simple protocol called DDCP. (Any relation to UUCP is greatly limited by available memory! Sorry, it didn't fit.) We offer PMX/STARGate, DDCP software for 3B2s and 6386s running UNIX System V; it's not a separate product, just ask for it when you order PMX/STARMail. If your UNIX based system isn't a 3B2 or a 6386 (other 386's are complicated; send e-mail and I'll explain), PMX/STARMail will still be able to exchange e-mail with the AT&T Mail service, and the service can talk to any system that knows UUCP. To order PMX/STARMail, to register a UNIX-based system with AT&T Mail, or for more information, please call the AT&T Mail Customer Assistance Center, 1-800-MAIL-672. (There's a non-800 number, but I don't have it handy, sorry.) > Sincerely Jonas, jonas@lkbpyr.lkb.se Paul S. R. Chisholm, AT&T Bell Laboratories att!pegasus!psrc, psrc@pegasus.att.com, AT&T Mail !psrchisholm I'm not speaking for the company, I'm just speaking my mind.
les@chinet.chi.il.us (Leslie Mikesell) (02/07/90)
In article <4442@pegasus.ATT.COM> psrc@pegasus.ATT.COM (Paul S. R. Chisholm) writes: >AT&T Mail PMX/STARMail is one of the e-mail products AT&T sells for >MS-DOS PCs. [...] >It can also tie LANs together, and tie LANs to the AT&T Mail service >and UNIX-based systems. Is there any way to give an RFC822 style address to the STARMAIL mailer? I'm using a 3B2 server with DOS clients over Starlan and haven't found any way to give an address that contains anything but a name in the unix machine's passwd file, or a machine name found in the Systems file or in the PMX sysmap file to the left of the first "!". The new unix /bin/mail that comes with the PMX products can handle some forms of routing but the PMX mailers won't pass anything to it unless it looks like a valid uucp address. Am I missing something? >The STARMail server can talk over an async >line, using a simple protocol called DDCP. (Any relation to UUCP is >greatly limited by available memory! Sorry, it didn't fit.) This is for DOS based servers, of course. The unix servers just hand off to the enhanced unix /bin/mail. However, DDCP takes 90K to run - aren't some of the versions of UUPC smaller than that? Using a proprietary protocol means that DOS server users are forced to use the attmail service unless they have a 3B2 or 386 unix machine to forward for them. And then there is ACCESS PLUS, a similar system for stand-alone PC's that uses Yet-Another-Protocol over dial-up lines and requires yet another program on the previously mentioned 3B2 or 386 forwarder or you are again forced to use the attmail service. Actually, I like the programs or I wouldn't bother to complain about this (and nits like keeping a plain-text copy of your unix password in a configuration file on the PC or losing your mailbox contents when the receiving PC's disk is full ). I would just like to see a cleaner separation between the user interface and the transport with the details of the linkage documented so users could roll their own connections. Les Mikesell les@chinet.chi.il.us