du4@mace.cc.purdue.edu (Ted Goldstein) (02/01/90)
I have recently begun using a network utility called LANSpace by Lan Systems Inc. and I thought I would post a few comments in case others are interested. LanSpace is used on a Novell Netware LAN to move the NET3.COM user shell into extended memory. This frees up about 30K of conventional memory. It can also move the NETBIOS driver into extended memory (I don't use netbios though) to free up a total of about 55K. It has the added feature of being able unload NETBIOS when it is not being used. The program is very easy to install (just run it in autoexec instead of net3) and indeed does free up 30K of memory. Whenever it is run it also checks its version number against a copy on the server, and updates itself if needed. Overall I would say that LanSpace is a well implemented utility and would recommend it to other lan managers. Now for the down side: I purchased LanSpace because of one specific Windows application which I needed to run, but required a few more K of memory than was available. Well it turns out that although LanSpace does work ok with Windows, it yields no net gain because it occupies the same first 64K of extended memory that windows wants to use for HIMEM.SYS . When you take out HIMEM.SYS, windows use more memory - the same amount more that LanSpace saves. So, if your looking to free up memory for Windows apllications, unfortunately LanSpace will not help you. Ted Goldstein Network and Systems Administrator Purdue University School of Technology du4@mace.cc.purdue.edu
phil@pepsi.amd.com (Phil Ngai) (02/02/90)
In article <4002@mace.cc.purdue.edu> du4@mace.cc.purdue.edu (Ted Goldstein) writes: | | So, if your looking to free up memory for Windows apllications, |unfortunately LanSpace will not help you. Have you looked at RIBS or QRAM? Also I think DCA claims to have something. I believe these products try to put the driver into expanded memory (or shadow RAM) mapped into otherwise unused address space above 640 (and below 1 meg). -- Phil Ngai, phil@diablo.amd.com {uunet,decwrl,ucbvax}!amdcad!phil It's a boy!
vanden@studsys.mu.edu (vandenberg) (02/07/90)
In article <4002@mace.cc.purdue.edu> du4@mace.cc.purdue.edu (Ted Goldstein) writes: > I have recently begun using a network utility called LANSpace by >Lan Systems Inc. and I thought I would post a few comments in case >others are interested. LanSpace is used on a Novell Netware LAN to >move the NET3.COM user shell into extended memory. This frees up about >[stuff deleted] >use for HIMEM.SYS . When you take out HIMEM.SYS, windows use more >memory - the same amount more that LanSpace saves. > So, if your looking to free up memory for Windows apllications, >unfortunately LanSpace will not help you. Although a workaround wasn't requested, here's another way to free up some of the 640 base. Qualitas wrote a program that allows a user to put just about anything in hi-mem. One especially nice feature is that you can specify the exact address that you want the program to be loaded. There is a version for 386's, '386-to-the-Max', and a version for 286's, 'Move'em'. We've used the 386 version on HP RS-20's. Tom Vandenberg {..uunet..uwvax!uwmcsd1..}!marque!studsys!vanden vanden%studsys@marque.UUCP {..uwvax..arpa..}!studsys.mu.edu!vanden
du4@mace.cc.purdue.edu (Ted Goldstein) (02/09/90)
In article <1990Feb7.070716.21591@grian.cps.altadena.ca.us> alex@grian.cps.altadena.ca.us (Alex Pournelle) writes: >vanden@studsys.mu.edu (vandenberg) writes: > >>In article <4002@mace.cc.purdue.edu> du4@mace.cc.purdue.edu (Ted Goldstein) writes: >>Although a workaround wasn't requested, here's another way to free up some >>of the 640 base. Qualitas wrote a program that allows a user to put just >>We've used the 386 version on HP RS-20's. > >I would recommend looking at QEMM from Quarterdeck, too. It (among >other things) will reclaim areas of the ROM you're not using (like, most >of that 64K the ROMs are using up) and give it back to you. > > Alex I have seen several comments about these other products, but thought they would work for me for the following reasons: 1. I do not have a 386 computer 2. I do use EGA and VGA video modes on a regular basis. 3. The machines in question are PS/2 50 Z 's which only have 1 M RAM (384K EXTENDED not expanded). 4. They have Token Ring cards installed (taking ROM space) Are my assumptions about these programs not working for me not correct? If anyone knows of a memory freeing utility that will work on a 286 without expanded memory, PLEASE LET ME KNOW. Thank you in advance for any information you may have. Ted Goldstein Network and Systems Administrator Purdue University School of Technology du4@mace.cc.purdue.edu