wmah@nro.cs.athabascau.ca (Wayne Mah) (02/20/91)
Forgive me if this question has already been answered. I somewhat familiar with TCP/IP and Novell, but am still learning new terms and concepts through this echo. 1) Can I use the same wire for Novell packets and ethernet packets. My goal is to boot my workstation and have access to the Novell network and unix system at the same time. I have Novell 2.15 SFT Rev A. unix is running on ethernet (TCP/IP). I have read several solutions including using a packet driver from Clarkson and reconfiguring Novells packet using ECONFIG. How do I get these Clarkson drivers (what is their phone number)? I have also seen suggestions on using Wollongong's WIN TCP for DOS to let me do the same thing. If anyone is using the Clarkson method, can you leave your config.sys and autoexec.bat on this post so I can see how things are loaded. 2) How do I get the BYU telnet softwar OOps sorry, my modem hicupped. 2) How do I get the NCSA or BYU telnet drivers? What is their phone number? 3) I have two Western Digital EtherCard PLUS 10T (10baseT cards) with an RJ 45 and AUI connector. I want to install one in my Novell SFT 2.15 Rev A file server (not a problem for me) and one in my workstation. Do I need a concentrator for this scenario to work or can I just hookup the two directly? Do I need to change any pinouts? Can I use my AUI connector to do the same? Thanks in advance to all responses. Please post in this echo. I have been told that direct email to me gets losts. Wayne
lws@comm.wang.com (Lyle Seaman) (02/21/91)
ersys!wmah@nro.cs.athabascau.ca (Wayne Mah) writes: >Forgive me if this question has already been answered. I somewhat >familiar with TCP/IP and Novell, but am still learning new terms and >concepts through this echo. > >1) Can I use the same wire for Novell packets and ethernet packets. My >goal is to boot my workstation and have access to the Novell network and >unix system at the same time. I have Novell 2.15 SFT Rev A. unix is >running on ethernet (TCP/IP). I'm not the most able person to respond to the other questions, but the definitive answer to the first question is, YES. However, the fundamental issue isn't that some packets are "Novell" packets and the others are "ethernet" packets. Novell servers and workstations can be configured to use any of a number of different protocols at the Link layer. By default, they use 802.3. This is really quite unfortunate, since they misuse 802.3. However, 802.3 and Ethernet-II packets will coexist on the same wire. Since they misuse 802.3, it is safest (for the long run) to configure the Novell servers and workstations to use EthernetII instead. The default configuration interacts badly with other protocols which use 802.3 correctly (such as the ISO protocols). Also, it is slightly easier for network administration if the number of protocols on the networks is minimized. -- Lyle Wang lws@capybara.comm.wang.com 508 967 2322 Lowell, MA, USA Source code: the _ultimate_ documentation.
nelson@sun.soe.clarkson.edu (Russ Nelson) (02/24/91)
In article <6JcNX1w163w@ersys.uucp> ersys!wmah@nro.cs.athabascau.ca (Wayne Mah) writes:
1) Can I use the same wire for Novell packets and ethernet packets.
Yes. Ethernet packets have a from address (6 bytes), a to address (6 bytes),
followed by [IEEE802.3: a length word] [DIX: a type word]. All DIX type
codes are larger than any legal Ethernet packet, which is how software
can distinguish between them.
Novell uses a format that is similar to IEEE802.3's in that it uses a length
word. But rather than follow IEEE802.3's type specifications, they follow
the length word by a word of all ones.
I have read several solutions including using a packet driver from
Clarkson and reconfiguring Novells packet using ECONFIG. How do I
get these Clarkson drivers (what is their phone number)?
2) How do I get the NCSA or BYU telnet drivers? What is their phone
number?
Our BBS is (315)268-6667. We have physically moved it, and until we can
transfer the calls or move the phone line, it is at x3791. Call x6667
first, and if it doesn't answer, then call x3791.
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