[comp.dcom.lans] FDDI Station Management ? FDDI-II ?

stephan@cs.kuleuven.ac.be (Stephan Biesbroeck) (03/14/91)

Hello,

I am looking for information on the FDDI Station Management part.
Can someone point me to some documentation ?
Where can I find the official standard document ? Have there been 
any publications on this ?? 

What is the status of FDDI-II ? When will it be available ? Will it ever
be available, or will IEEE 802.6 be the standard ??
Also any documentation on this is really appreciated.

Thanks,

Stephan Biesbroeck
stephan@cs.kuleuven.ac.be
stephan@Belgium.EU.net

haas%basset.utah.edu@cs.utah.edu (Walt Haas) (03/18/91)

In article <2412@n-kulcs.cs.kuleuven.ac.be> stephan@cs.kuleuven.ac.be (Stephan Biesbroeck) writes:
>Hello,
>
>I am looking for information on the FDDI Station Management part.
>Can someone point me to some documentation ?
>Where can I find the official standard document ? Have there been 
>any publications on this ?? 

I believe they are up to about version 6.2 of the draft standard.

-- Walt

my@levadi.nsc.com (Michael Yip) (03/18/91)

> Subject: FDDI Station Management ? FDDI-II ?
> Organization: Dept. Computer Science K.U.Leuven

> I am looking for information on the FDDI Station Management part.
> Can someone point me to some documentation ?
> Where can I find the official standard document ? Have there been 
> any publications on this ?? 
FDDI SMT is up to version 6.2.  Version "7.0" or "6.2b" or whatever
will be coming out real-soon-now... probably after the April meeting.
Not sure where you can buy the standard, but the vice chairman of the
committe is Mr. Floyd Ross from UNISYS.  His address is UNISYS, 
P.O. Box 203, Paoli, PA 19301 and phone number is (215) 648-7200.
The draft standard (6.2) was published May last year, I think.


> What is the status of FDDI-II ? When will it be available ? Will it ever
> be available, or will IEEE 802.6 be the standard ??
> Also any documentation on this is really appreciated.
FDDI-II is still on-going.

-- Mike Yip
   my@berlioz.nsc.com

merike@alw.nih.gov (Merike Kaeo) (03/19/91)

The latest SMT (rev. 6.2) can be obtained from Global Engineering Documents
1-800-854-7179.  I've got two addresses for them:
	- 1990 M Street NW, Washington DC 20036
	- 2805 McGaw Ave., Irvine, CA 92714

It was published in May, 1990.  


FDDI II depends on the Hybrid Ring Control part of the standard.  Latest I heard
was that it's nearing final approval, whatever that means.  It is currently in
revision 6.1  - I would imagine you could get this draft from Global Engineering
Documents as well.

-- Merike Kaeo

snorthc@relay.nswc.navy.mil (Stephen Northcutt) (03/21/91)

In article <2412@n-kulcs.cs.kuleuven.ac.be>, stephan@cs.kuleuven.ac.be (Stephan Biesbroeck) writes:

|> 
|> What is the status of FDDI-II ? When will it be available ? Will it ever
|> be available, or will IEEE 802.6 be the standard ??
|> Also any documentation on this is really appreciated.

*FDDI-II is still a draft, 6.2 or some such.

*802.6 certainly will not be THE standard.  It might be "a" IEEE
standard, wasn't the vote early this year?

I would appreciate it if some wise person could help me put some of
these technologies in perspective.  It seems there is some overlap
between FDDI-II and 802.6, that's OK.  Then they both seem orthogonal
to SONET (or should I be saying SONET ATM?).

We are the primary network provider for a fairly large campus.  At
a fairly large expense we have put in a flexible multimedia ducting
system so that media changes between various standards (copper ->
multimode fiber -> singlemode fiber) don't cause us great headaches 
at the backbone level.  FDDI is our current backbone standard.
Most of the computer hosts are connected to ethernets.

Sometimes it seems like these technologies will be good forever,
to the best of my understanding none of our unclassified hosts
can make full use of an ethernet, but people claim there will
be all these new applications: visualization, video, mega monster
file transfers that will require incredible bandwidth.  So assuming
somehow that the next generation of IBM PCs, MACs, and SUN work-
stations are capable of 800 or so megabits of I/O peaks, what will
our networks have to look like?

It is my understanding that if you have FDDI nodes on an FDDI-II
network the FDDI-II nodes feel constrained to act like FDDI nodes.
This certainly makes some sense, but we will be hardpressed to
upgrade multiple vendors equipment at the same time.  I just can't
see 802.6 playing a part here unless it get real popular soon.

SONET seems to make some sense as a line driver between clusters
of buildings, but the only product I am aware of that can
up/down convert a LAN technology like 802.3 or FDDI into SONET
is the Alcatel/proteon combination.  Also these types of 
conversions might be hard to do (cheaply) at fairly high speeds,
so it would might make more sense to stay with one networking
technology from the desktop through the campus backbone.
As an example you could put SONET ATM boards in your desktop
systems and run this building to building across the network,
posibly remultiplexing or concatenating at building clusters to
gain more throughput.  

:-) :-) Does anyone know of a couple sources for SONET/ATM boards
for my IBM PC XT?  I could probably spend $3 - 400.00 ea.  I
understand Russ Nelson is working on a driver :-) :-)

I recently heard that fiberchannel would solve all our problems,
problem is I don't know what fiberchannel is.

So if anyone can share some info to unscramble my brains I would
appreciate it.  Thank You.

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Stephen Northcutt (snorthc@relay.nswc.navy.mil)     News Admin

hedrick@athos.rutgers.edu (Charles Hedrick) (03/21/91)

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