pdd@xdnc2.ICO.OLIVETTI.COM (Paul Downing) (05/07/91)
Query:
Some collegues are examining the Netwise RPC tool for use on a mixed
DOS, OS/2, UNIX distributed application.
They are curious about the capacity and performance of the tool on
Novell Netware 3.x or Lan Manager 2.X systems where the server
is either OS/2 or UNIX.
They seek tales-of-toil from people who have used
that product on distributed applications on those environments. Any
comments you have will be welcomed.
Can you email me, or post a reply to this query?
Thank you.
Paul. (pdd@xdnc2.ICO.OLIVETTI.COM)Bruce_H_Ring@cup.portal.com (05/13/91)
In a posting pdd@xdnc2.ICO.OLIVETTI.COM (Paul Downing) says: > Some collegues are examining the Netwise RPC tool for > use on a mixed DOS, OS/2, UNIX distributed application. > They are curious about the capacity and performance of the > tool on Novell Netware 3.x or Lan Manager 2.X systems > where the server is either OS/2 or UNIX. They seek > tales-of-toil from people who have used that product on > distributed applications on those environments. > Any comments you have will be welcomed. Can you email me, > or post a reply to this query? > ... I am also interested in hearing from anyone who has experience with Netwise RPC. Bruce Ring Gupta Technologies, Inc. bruce_h_ring@cup.portal.com
kdenning@genesis.Naitc.Com (Karl Denninger) (05/15/91)
In article <42278@cup.portal.com> Bruce_H_Ring@cup.portal.com writes: > >In a posting pdd@xdnc2.ICO.OLIVETTI.COM (Paul Downing) says: > >> Some collegues are examining the Netwise RPC tool for >> use on a mixed DOS, OS/2, UNIX distributed application. >> They are curious about the capacity and performance of the >> tool on Novell Netware 3.x or Lan Manager 2.X systems >> where the server is either OS/2 or UNIX. They seek >> tales-of-toil from people who have used that product on >> distributed applications on those environments. >> Any comments you have will be welcomed. Can you email me, >> or post a reply to this query? >> ... > >I am also interested in hearing from anyone who has experience >with Netwise RPC. > >Bruce Ring >Gupta Technologies, Inc. >bruce_h_ring@cup.portal.com I have taken their course, and had some hands-on work with the product. It's REAL nice, folks. There are some limitations, yes, but not many in real terms. You do have to follow reasonable programming practices, but who doesn't? It's not a panacea. It is a very powerful tool that appears to offer you the ability to develop quite easily for a distributed environment. I should have some real hands-on experience with it shortly building distributed applications. Will post some more when I have it. -- Karl Denninger - AC Nielsen, Bannockburn IL (708) 317-3285 kdenning@nis.naitc.com "The most dangerous command on any computer is the carriage return." Disclaimer: The opinions here are solely mine and may or may not reflect those of the company.
vdra_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Valerie Drake) (05/15/91)
In <50767@olivea.atc.olivetti.com> pdd@xdnc2.ICO.OLIVETTI.COM (Paul Downing) writes: >Query: > Some collegues are examining the Netwise RPC tool for use on a mixed > DOS, OS/2, UNIX distributed application. > They are curious about the capacity and performance of the tool on > Novell Netware 3.x or Lan Manager 2.X systems where the server > is either OS/2 or UNIX. > They seek tales-of-toil from people who have used > that product on distributed applications on those environments. Any > comments you have will be welcomed. > Can you email me, or post a reply to this query? > Thank you. Although I have not worked on the specific configuration you mentioned, I have used the Netwise RPC for Novell Netware and ATTEMPTED to use the Netbios RPC on a 3Com 3+ network. Netwise RPC for Novell works like a champ. We rewrote a asynch access library so it would work with netwise so that app programs written to the library could be recompiled and would run remote. We did this successfully with very few problems. The only "limitation" is that you MUST know the EXACT size of any data you expect to be passing between client and server, or have an algorithm you can build into your program to determine it. We figure that Netwise added about a 10% performance penalty on a basically unused network, with 1 client and server vs running the same software stand alone on the server machine. Approximate development time for the Novell version from getting the code to releasing executables was approximately 1 man month. This included learning time on the RPC, and some debugging of problems in the original libraries we had to work with. One of our principal reasons for going Netwise was that we wished to port to a wide variety of other platforms, and probably buy quite a variety of libraries to support this. We decided to go to 3Com 3+ Netbios first, since this was the most similar to We did NOT EVER get the same software to work on a 3Com network under Netbios, which according to their docs it should, without modification. Although we called Netwise repeatedly over a 6 month period and they acknowledged that we had found a bug which made the code unuseable, they made NO effort to fix it. They hemmed, they hawed, they refused to answer our calls. Calls to everyone from tech to sales to management went nowhere and did not help. Written letters were ignored. Their tech support staff is VASTLY overloaded, and (IMHO) they are attempting to support too many platforms with far to few developers and support staff who know what they are doing. We eventually returned our copy of Netwise RPC for 3Com Netbios, since we could not get it working. Netwise never (to my knowledge) credited us for this. They also (in mid development) changed their licensing policy, and began to claim that if we were distributing executables which incorporated their code, we would owe them royalties. This was in clear contravention of the license agreement (rip and you agree type) which clearly stated that executables required no royalties (one of our major reasons for buying the tool in the first place). When we pointed this out they said, "Oh, well if you ever upgrade the product, you will have to abide by the "NEW" license agreement." What a crock. Summary: Good product. Poor Support. Terrible Customer Service. We will not be buying from them again. This is my personal opinion only. I do not speak for Azatar or the Client for whom we did the Development. -- | | +--+ +--+ o | Carpe Diem, Seize the DAY! | ////// | |\/ .\/. \/| o| vdra_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu | /_ _\ | | )) /\ (( | o | Val & Lee Drake (The Fish Faces) +--,,,,----U----,,,,--+ |/\+--+ +--+/\| | | University of Rochester