dwc@homxc.UUCP (D.CHEN) (10/20/87)
here is a summary of the responses i got to my query about 8mm and VHS backup devices: __________________________________________________________________________ Exabyte makes a tape drive based on an 8mm videocassette transport. They claim 2.3 Gbytes on a standard cassette. There are two OEMs of this drive that I am aware of; Emerald Systems offers the drive for the SCSI/PC-DOS market for $8K. I don't have their address handy; check some recent BYTE, I guess. When I spoke to them, they had no plans to address the Unix market, even on PCs. Transitional Technology in Orange CA is offering it for the VAX market with an Unibus controller, emulating a TS-11 at the DRIVER level; they will be offering the drive with a standard Pertec interface as of Dexpo in December, at which point it will be potentially usable under Unix. They want $7K for their version. The reliability claim is BER of < 1e-13. They claim they can move bits on/off the tape at 256Kb/sec. We were thinking about them as an alternative for backing up our Eagles; lots easier to store one mini-cam cassette than umpteen 2400' reels. :-) The drive fits in a full-height 5 1/4" drive enclosure. _____________________________________________________________________________ UNM. Or going to be looking at them I should say. I have some literature from Honeywell which uses a VHS tape to store up to 5.2 GB. I haven't had time to read the literature yet. The address listed is: Honeywell Test Instruments Division PO Box 5227 Denver Co 80217 (303) 773-4700 Also we have literature from Perfect Byte Inc about an 8mm video cassette drive which stores 2 GB. THeir address is: Perfect Byte Inc 7121 Cass St Omaha, NE 68132 (402) 554-1122 They had a demo of this at usenix. I picked up the literature, and was initially impressed at the amount of that that could be stored in such a small cassette. Price (w/o scsi controller) is about $5K. ___________________________________________________________________________ Right now you've got three choices for tape storage >1GB: Exabyte, Honeywell, Digi Data. Exabyte- (303) 442-4333 2.3GB on 8mm video cartridge 5.25" full height package 246 kb/s transfer rate SCSI interface ~3.5K$ Bit Error rate 1 in 10e13 MTBF 20khrs Honeywell- (303) 773-4491 5.2GB on VHS cartridge rack mount package 4 MB/s transfer rate modified pertec interface ~19.8 k$ Bit Error rate 1 in 10e12 MTBF unknown Digi Data- (301) 498-0200 2.5GB on VHS cartridge rack mount package 120 kb/s transfer rate SCSI interface ~4.7 k$ Bit Error rate 1 in 10e23 MTBF unknown Following Comdex we should see a number of announcements of data storage products based on digital audio tapes (DAT). These will all be ~1GB, 5.25" drives. HP/Sony and Hitachi have both announced developement programs and we know of a couple of other companies that are working on it. ____________________________________________________________________________ This drive uses an 8MM "metal" tape VCR "Camcorder" cart that stores 2.3 Gigabytes on a 2 hour tape. These VCR tapes are available at your local Kmart or Target store. The VCR "deck" is made in Japan, however, all the electronics is USA made. The heads are slightly modified (3 heads) so read-after-write may be done. No "video" is used in this system, Exabyte designed their own servo and recording formats. Surface-mount construction is used, with 5 custom VLSI chips. No preformatting is needed. This drive does full read-after-write and rewrites anything with as much as a 1 bit error elsewhere on the tape (the controller figures it all out). Exabyte has run thousands of passes and found very little degradation in lab testing...I have run a 120 minute tape for about 1 month now and have had no unrecoverable "hard" errors or badspots on the tape. Most of the problems have been quirks in the SUN-2 SCSI interface and my driver bugs (I understand the SUN-3 is much better) Transfer rates are in the order of 15 Mbytes/min (drive streaming). The "burst" transfer rate to the 256Kbyte internal buffer is around 1.5Mbytes/sec. A 120 minute tape will hold 2.3Gbytes and takes 2 hrs 45 mins to read/write (this is equiv to 16 reels of 2400' magtape @ 6250 BPI). A near-EOT "warning" will be issued at around 2.0 Gbytes (on a 120 min cart)..with 300 Mbytes of tape remaining (around 1/4" on the supply spool). The transport moves the tape at around 0.5 in/sec (slowed down 30% compared to a Camcorder deck since tracks can be tolerated closer together than with video). An effective tape speed of 150 in/sec is obtained due to the helical scan head spinning at 1800 RPM. Linear recording density is 54,000 FCI giving an aereal density of 44.2 M-FC per sq inch (819 tracks/inch). (FCI is Flux-Changes-Inch) The ECC is overkill. Each track or "stripe" contains eight 1-KByte blocks of user data.. with 400 bytes of ECC appended to each block. This ECC can correct a 263 byte burst error + around 80 1-2 bit errors within a 1 Kbyte sector. Find another tape drive which does this! There are no inter-record-gaps as in conventional magtape systems, Exabyte looks more like a disk, with 1 Kbyte sectors. (size can be changed with software though). However, there are Filemarks (tape marks, EOFs). With current firmware being developed now, one will be able to skip to a filemark at 10X read/write speed, however "record" or block skips will still be at 1X read speed. A real pain if you are using Berkeley dump/restore and need to get the last file off a level 0 dump of a 1.3GB disk (1.3 hour wait to read up 1.3GB). The drive is capable of moving the tape at 76X read speed (rewind speed), but it cannot decode anything going by at that speed. It takes 2 min 15 sec to transverse a 120 min tape in this mode. Exabyte is thinking about implementing a "blind search" or position mode which would allow one to issue a maint mode command to start/stop the deck (at 76X read speed) and allow one to just fastforward someplace. Dump tapes have the needed info so one could figure out their corrent position by reading from the current spot. It would be easy to modify restore to issue blind searches/reads to get to the correct spot using a binary search in 3-4 mins worst case. This is better than the search time on a 125 IPS 6250 BPI conventional drive. I am testing this drive at the moment on a SUN-2/120 and have a rough cut of the driver sort of working.. (sundev/st.c and sc.c files were modified). The drive uses +5 and +12V, is 5.25 inch formfactor size, and includes the "controller" in the same package (ready to plug into a SCSI bus). In June, testing will move to a SUN-3, with the eventual goal of doing filesystem backups via Ethernet (TCP-IP). A SUN-2 is barely fast enough to generate/compare data fast enough to keep the drive streaming. The drive is currently slightly faster (15Mbytes/min) than network backups (~12 Mbytes/min on Gould-9080, CCI 6/32, and other 5-10 MIP machines with fast disks and Enets) Single quantity price will be around $3500, with discounts for quantity and OEMs. Contact Exabyte at 303-442-4333 for more info. They are not on USENET. __________________________________________________________________________ 1. VHS - The VLDS (Very Large Data Store) uses one premium-grade T-120 VHS cassette can store 5.2G bytes. (expect 10G bytes in '88). Bit error rate of 1 in 10e12. Will not overwrite existing data, must use bulk erase first for protection of data. Interfaces: SCSI or proprietary TTL interface. Cost: Evaluation units $44,000. Production units $18,900 OEM quantities. Who: Honeywell Inc., Test Instruments Dev., 5105 E 41st Ave., Denver, CO 80216 (303) 773-4581. 2. 8-mm - EXB-8200 stores 2.332G bytes on a 8-mm videotape cartridge. System includes tape drive, controller, 256k-byte buffer, and embedded SCSI interface. Fits in full-height, 5 1/4" form factor. Bit error rate of less than 1 error per 10e13 nonrecoverable. Cost: Evaluation unit $3500, less than $1000 per unit large OEM quantities. Who: Exabyte Corp., 4876 Sterling Dr., Boulder, CO 80301 (303) 442-4333 3. Digital Audio Tape (DAT) - 1G byte. Bit error rate better than one in 10e12. Who: Hitachi Corp., Japan I have no interface, cost, or address on this one.