[comp.periphs] Help -- Making a modem with DB9 connector --> DB25

pat@seradg.Dayton.NCR.COM (Patrick Pesch) (12/11/87)

	A friend of mine recently gave me a US Robotics PASSWORD/COURIER
	300/1200 bps modem.  The problem is that the cabling coming out
	of the unit is for an Osbourne box, which means that it is a 
	DB9 connector (9-pin) with only 4-wires actually attached.

	I opened up the case and found that the internal end of the cable
	is connected to a 9 (or 10?) pin "edge connector".  Does anyone
	out there know which pins are which on the edge connector?  What
	I want to do is to attach this guy to a vt100 type terminal with
	a DB25 connector.  Do I have to get a hold of US Robotics and 
	purchase a cable from them or can I *easily* build one myself?
	I am not a "hardware type", but feel I could build my own if I
	what pin did what on the edge connector inside the modem...

	Thanks in advance for any advice...

				Patrick Pesch	pat@seradg.Dayton.NCR.COM
				NCR Corporation
				Dayton OH

silber@batcomputer.tn.cornell.edu (Jeffrey Silber) (12/11/87)

Last time I needed to make a cable for a US Robotics modem, I called
US Robotics' tech support and they supplied me with all of the appropriate
pin-outs (I needed to go from a mac DB9 to the DB25 on the Password modem).

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ehr@ecsvax.UUCP (Ernest H. Robl) (12/12/87)

On AT-type machines the pins on a DB9 serial connector are:
   1  CD
   2  RD
   3  TD
   4  DTR
   5  Sig.Grnd.
   6  DSR
   7  RTS
   8  CTS
   9  RI

   For straight-through cables DB9 on computer to DB25 on
   modem, we have used the following:

   DB25 side     DB9 side
   pin 2     to  pin 3
   pin 3     to  pin 2
   pin 4     to  pin 7   
   pin 5     to  pin 8
   pin 7     to  pin 5
   pin 8     to  pin 1
   pin 20    to  pin 4
   pin 22    to  pin 9

   For a null-modem (DB9 computer to DB25 computer) we have
   used the following:

   DB25 side     DB9 side
   pin 2     to  pin 2
   pin 3     to  pin 3
   pins 4&5  to  pin 1
   pin 6     to  pin 4
   pin 7     to  pin 5
   pin 8     to  pins 7&8
   pin 20    to  pin 6
   pin 22    to  pin 9

Since you are going from a DB9 modem to a DB25 machine, the
above may or may not work.

Some electronics stores, including Radio Shack computer centers
now sell DB9 to DB25 adapters.  I presume they are wired as in
the first example above.

Hope this helps. -- Ernest
-- 
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Ernest H. Robl          (ehr@ecsvax)         (919) 684-6269 (w)
Systems Specialist, Library Systems,         (919) 286-3845 (h)
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zog@laidbak.UUCP (Christian G. Herzog) (12/13/87)

The original question was related to a particular type of USR modems
and was not really a generic 9->25 pin adaptor question (even though the
article which contained the wiring setups for the AT-style connectors is
a really excellent reference to keep around for those occasions):

The problem here is that the DB9 on the Password modems IS NOT an AT-style
connector.  The DB9 was intended to connect to an Osborne-1 which was designed
to use TTL rather than RS232 signal levels to communicate with the modem.

The Password series modems were all the same but came with enough pins on the
inside connector to allow both a straight TTL I/O (bypassing the line drivers
and receivers which perform the logic translation) rather than the more
conventional +/- 12 volt RS232 levels.

From the 12 pin header INSIDE the modem to an outside RS232 connection should
be as follows for the Password/Courier modems:

Connector:

	1 |	Unused
	2 |	"
	3 |	"
	4 |	pin 3 (on a DB25)
	5 |	pin 7
	6 |	pin 6
	7 |	pin 12
	8 |	pin 22
	9 |	pin 8
	10|	pin 5
	11|	pin 2
	12|	pin 20
	  ^
	  ^
	This is the ridge on the connector which allows the mating connector
	to plug in with the correct orientation.


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dhp@ihlpa.ATT.COM (Douglas H. Price) (12/19/87)

Sorry, you can't use the DB9 connector on the Osborne I for connecting to any
other modem than the 300 baud one that Osborne sold itself.  All the signals
are not present.  You have to use the DB25 connector on the front of the Osborne
instead.  If you have a printer connected to this port, you're outta luck.
-- 
						Douglas H. Price
						Analysts International Corp.
						@ AT&T Bell Laboratories
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