ghn@munsell.UUCP (Gary Newman) (02/02/88)
I'd like to plug an IBM-PC card (you know, those little things that are not frequently available for the VME bus) into my Sun 3/160 and am wondering if anyone out there knows of a source for an adapter card. It shouldn't be very difficult to make one since the IBM-PC bus is so trivial, but i'd much rather buy one. As a further note, It would even be nice if the adapter card had a DMA controller on it since that's not included on an IBM-PC card.
ron@topaz.rutgers.edu (Ron Natalie) (02/06/88)
Sun makes a thing that they call the "Integrated Personal Computer." You intall this beastie into a Sun VME slot and then run a suntools program called pctool (can be run remotely from other suns) and it makes a window that is the virtual IBM-PC screeen. They give you a cute little keyboard overlay to show you where the IBM keys are on your Sun-3 keyboard. The thing runs PC-NFS through a virtual ethernet to the machine it is installed with. The display will pretend to be either a Color, Monochrome, or Hercules display. The disk uses a little piece of your main disk as it's C: and will supposedly also print though your machine (but I haven't tried this). The thing also has jacks on it for a couple of floppy disk drives, etc. It uses the Phoenix bios. Flight Simulator doesn't seem to run on it however (but some of our other games do). It aslso comes with GW Basic. It's a 286 system by the way. The IPC is $1,495 (1,885 with 80287). Two floppy drives (one 1.2M, one 360K) go for $995. Required software is $495. Ron
michael@orcisi.UUCP (Michael Herman) (02/07/88)
> Sun makes a thing that they call the "Integrated Personal Computer."
I may be wrong but I thought the original poster was looking for a PC
<-> VME bus adapter card that allows one to use PC expansion cards in
a Sun workstation. (?)
I don't know that much about VME but if such a bus adapter exists or
you think you could build one, call me - (416) 596-6862.
p.s. I am actually interested in a IBM AT <-> VMS bus adapter.
**
Michael Herman
Optical Recording Corporation
141 John Street, Toronto, Ontario, Canada M5V 2E4
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ALSO: michael@orcisi.uucpwilkes@mips.COM (John Wilkes) (02/10/88)
In article <1166@orcisi.UUCP> michael@orcisi.UUCP (Michael Herman) writes: >> Sun makes a thing that they call the "Integrated Personal Computer." > >I may be wrong but I thought the original poster was looking for a PC ><-> VME bus adapter card that allows one to use PC expansion cards in >a Sun workstation. (?) Check out the "VMEbus Compatible Products Directory" put out by VITA (VMEbus International Trade Association). There are at least three different products that allow an IBM-PC to be a VMEbus master. This would allow VMEbus cards to be used on the PC. There are also a few single board computers based on the '86 family that run MS-DOS. A glance did not reveal anything that would allow PC boards to be used in a VME sustem, but something like that may be in there. Alternatively, one of the PC-as-VMEbus-master boards might be adaptable. Doesn't somebody make a PCbus thing that has no processor on it? Maybe that could be used? call VITA at (602) 951-8866 I have no association with VITA, other than having purchased their catalog. >Michael Herman >Optical Recording Corporation >141 John Street, Toronto, Ontario, Canada M5V 2E4 > >UUCP: {mnetor,yetti,utgpu}!geac!orcisi!michael >ALSO: michael@orcisi.uucp -- -- @work: -- {decwrl,ames,pyramid,prls}!mips!wilkes -- OR, for those of great faith: -- wilkes@mips.com
truett@cup.portal.com (02/10/88)
A PC to VME interface does exist and is manufactured by a company called Bit3. Sorry I don't have the info on them here at home, but I think they are in Minneapolis or thereabouts. They also make PC to Multibus (I and II), PC to Q-bus, VME to Multibus, and shared memory systems for all the above. Truett Lee Smith, Sunnyvale, CA truett@cup.portal.com P.S.: I know that they will be a BusCon later this month.
lbrown@apctrc.UUCP (Lawrence H. Brown) (02/11/88)
In article <17830@topaz.rutgers.edu::: ron@topaz.rutgers.edu (Ron Natalie) writes:
:::Sun makes a thing that they call the "Integrated Personal Computer."
:::You intall this beastie into a Sun VME slot and then run a suntools
:::program called pctool (can be run remotely from other suns) and it
:::makes a window that is the virtual IBM-PC screeen. They give you a
:::cute little keyboard overlay to show you where the IBM keys are on your
:::Sun-3 keyboard. The thing runs PC-NFS through a virtual ethernet to
:::the machine it is installed with. The display will pretend to be
:::either a Color, Monochrome, or Hercules display. The disk uses a
:::little piece of your main disk as it's C: and will supposedly also
:::print though your machine (but I haven't tried this). The thing also
:::has jacks on it for a couple of floppy disk drives, etc.
:::
:::It uses the Phoenix bios. Flight Simulator doesn't seem to run on it
:::however (but some of our other games do). It aslso comes with GW Basic.
:::It's a 286 system by the way.
:::
:::The IPC is $1,495 (1,885 with 80287). Two floppy drives (one 1.2M, one
:::360K) go for $995. Required software is $495.
:::
:::Ron
All that is pretty acurate, except Flight Simulator DOES run, at least it
does on our IPC board. Programs blazedly fast. There is no sound
capability except the beep from the Sun, and you can't even get
a mono tune. Another thing is that a lot of the PD games that run normally
on a PC/XT run way way way too fast on this machine. Anyone on our network can access the IPC from our server, one at a time. It will even ask you if
you want to wait for your turn if its currently being used. Printer re-
direction of LPT1: to the line printer and we send LPT2: to the Lazerprinter.
It is a great way of transfering files and data. We haven't had a bit of
trouble either from the floppy drives or the board.
--
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Disclaimer: I paid 25 cents to see the light. Call it cheap entertainment.berger@datacube.UUCP (02/12/88)
Try Plilip Vucavik BIT 3 at 612-881-6955 They make a very good IBM AT
to VMEbus adapter.
Bob Berger
Datacube Inc. Systems / Software Group 4 Dearborn Rd. Peabody, Ma 01960
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{cbosgd,cuae2,mit-eddie}!mirror!datacube!bergermichael@orcisi.UUCP (Michael Herman) (02/18/88)
> A PC to VME interface does exist and is manufactured by a company called > Bit3. Sorry I don't have the info on them here at home, but I think they > are in Minneapolis or thereabouts. They also make PC to Multibus (I and II), > PC to Q-bus, VME to Multibus, and shared memory systems for all the above. I spoke with "Phil" at Bit 3 last week. They can be contacted at: Bit 3 Computer Corporation 8120 Penn Avenue South Minneapolis MN 55431-1393 (612) 881-6955 I was one of the original "co-requestors" for a AT-VME bus adapter board thay would plug into a VME backplane. The Bit 3 products are *host* bus adapters. That is, they connect host computers by plugging a board into each machine and connecting the boards by a cable. The data rates are in the 1-3M byte range and they handle all combinations of AT, Multibus and VME. They also have dual-ported memory boards. What I am still looking for is a VME board that will allow me to: * plug an AT board into it; * plug the VME board into a VME backplane; * access the AT board by talking to the VME board from the VME host.