fleischer@iccgcc.decnet.ab.com (04/25/91)
I saw the most *amazing* "3D" black and white photocopy of an advertisement by PENTICA. It looked like a random patern of squiggles in a box with 2 large black dots above. When you shift the focus of your eyes to make the 2 dots overlap, this flat XEROX'd picture turns 3D. It's like you're looking through a window to a picture about 1 foot below the paper with letters and numbers at various heights above the picture. Does anyone know how this was done? Is there PC software that will let you build these and print them on a laser printer? Is there a collection of these? Who did the theory and development? Does it require more resolution than exists on a VGA display? IS there a dynamic/moving version? I requested more information from PENTICA, but I don't expect a very detailed reply.
akm@obelix.cs.uoregon.edu (Anant Kartik Mithal) (04/26/91)
In article <4352.2816b547@iccgcc.decnet.ab.com> fleischer@iccgcc.decnet.ab.com writes: >I saw the most *amazing* "3D" black and white photocopy of an >advertisement by PENTICA. It looked like a random patern of squiggles in >a box with 2 large black dots above. When you shift the focus of your eyes >to make the 2 dots overlap, this flat XEROX'd picture turns 3D. It's >like you're looking through a window to a picture about 1 foot below the >paper with letters and numbers at various heights above the picture. > >Does anyone know how this was done? Is there PC software that will let >you build these and print them on a laser printer? Is there a collection of >these? Who did the theory and development? Does it require more resolution >than exists on a VGA display? IS there a dynamic/moving version? This is a fairly standard procedure called random-dot stereograms, described in texts on visual information processing. I read about it in David Marr's book on vision. The idea behind stereograms is that the pixels in one of the pictures are shifted by a small amount, and that produces the effect of being in stereo when each image is viewed by a different eye. The Marr book (and others) has a number of stereograms in it. I seem to recall that the original work was not done by Marr, but I can't remember who did it. I have not heard of a dynamic/moving version, and would theorize that it would be difficult because you have to keep your focus on the dots, but the movement would tend to take your attention away, so you would loose the 'focus'. What is new in the PENTICA thing is the two dots to help you focus. I hadn't heard about that before. You normally view the stereograms through special glasses. The prof I took the vision course from (Kent Stevens, a student of Marr's) could get to view the stereograms without the help of spectacles by just crossing his eyes, which is what the PENTICA approach achieves. I tried and couldn't. The PENTICA approach would make this much easier. Hope this helps, kartik -- Anant Kartik Mithal akm@cs.uoregon.edu Research Assistant, (503)346-4408 (msgs) Department of Computer Science, (503)346-3989 (direct) University of Oregon, Eugene, OR 97403-1202
raney@yertle.Colorado.EDU (Scott Raney) (04/26/91)
Fusing random dot stereograms without glasses is not all that difficult. Hold the figures 12"-18" away from your eyes, cross your eyes till you see three figures (instead of just the two on the page), relax your focus keeping the size of the middle image the same size as the two originals. Eventually (it may take a few seconds, or even a few minutes if you're new at it) a 3-D image will appear. The image is actually fairly stable across eye movements and page movements if they are of short distance and if there is sufficient delay between movements. David Marr's book Vision has examples as do the PDP (Rumelhart and McClelland) and most vision texts, if you don't happen to have one handy. Have fun, and I guarantee your eyes won't stay that way (despite what your mother may have told you). Scott -- ====================================================================== Scott Raney No other person or organization raney@boulder.colorado.edu can be held responsible for my (303)499-9855 opinions or actions