[comp.dcom.modems] Device to indicate phone line in use?

bin@primate.wisc.edu (Brain in Neutral) (05/22/89)

Do devices exist that can be put on a phone line to indicate whether
the line is already in use?  This would be used in a situation where
two people in a home each have a modem, and one wants to know if the
other is on, without picking up a phone to find out.  All that would
be necessary is a little thing with an LED.

Thanks,
Paul DuBois
dubois@primate.wisc.edu		rhesus!dubois
bin@primate.wisc.edu		rhesus!bin

dave@westmark.UUCP (Dave Levenson) (05/24/89)

Most modems are configureable for use on multi-line key telephone
systems.  When this option is selected, the modem closes a relay
contact accross the second pair in its phone cord (the black-yellow
pair if standard inside wire color-coding is followed on the RJ-11
jack).  You can build a busy-lamp using a low DC voltage and a
suitable indicator lamp switched by the black-yellow pair, and the
indicator will be lit whenever either modem is off-hook.  For
example:

            |---|    /--------------------------------> YELLOW
110 vac ====|   |==== 10vac                     ~
            |---|    \------>|-----/\/\/\/----->|-----> BLACK
              ^              ^   |    ^         ^   |
              |              |   |    |         |   |
           transformer     diode | resistor    led  |
                                 |  68k~            |
                                 |                  |
                                 |                  |
                                 V                  V
                                to other indicators like
                                the above: resistor + led


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Dave Levenson
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...the man in the mooney

bote@csense.UUCP (John Boteler) (05/26/89)

From article <298@indri.primate.wisc.edu>, by bin@primate.wisc.edu (Brain in Neutral):
> Do devices exist that can be put on a phone line to indicate whether
> the line is already in use?  This would be used in a situation where
> two people in a home each have a modem, and one wants to know if the
> other is on, without picking up a phone to find out.  

There is a discussion in comp.dcom.telecom raging about this
now.

I came up with a different idea while reading your request, plus
this has been used in a similar configuration before.

Dig yourself up two relays, fairly small and cheap, which operate
on ~5-10 volts and pull in with about 5-10 ma of current; you
can find these at Radio Shack for maybe $5 US.

Connect each relay's coil in series with the tip of each phone line.

Connect each relay's normally closed contacts such that they 
interrupt the other line when the first phone is off-hook and
drawing current through the relay.

Now you won't possibly be able to use the other phone when 
the first is in use, and vice versa. Automatic exclusion key!


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