[comp.dcom.modems] Comparison of V.32bis versus V.32

lance@richp1.UUCP (Lance Hall) (06/13/90)

A question to those folks who know ---

   The currently ratified standard for high speed modems is V.32 which
consists of the following:

	- 9600 bits per second
	- full duplex operation over voice grade 2-wire connections
	- fallback to V.22bis -> V.22/Bell212 -> V.21/Bell103
	- 600 baud with 16 point Trellis Coded Modulation
	      (or is 32 point TCM required/recommended/commonly used
		  for forward error correction?)
	- echo cancellation necessary
	- no inherent end-to-end reliability mode; i.e., V.42/Appendix
	      is required for such
	- no inherent end-to-end  compression mode; i.e., V.42bis is
	      required for such

I have seen reference to the V.32bis standard that is currently in
progress which consists of the following:

	- 14,400 bits per second
	      (why did this not double to 19,200 bps?)
	- full duplex operation over voice grade 2-wire connections
	- fallback mechanisms ???
	- modulation scheme ??? TCM ??? DAMQAM ??? Other ???
	- echo cancellation necessary
	- no inherent end-to-end reliability mode; i.e., V.42/Appendix
	      is required for such
	- no inherent end-to-end  compression mode; i.e., V.42bis is
	      required for such

I would appreciate some discussion to better understand what V.32bis is
now and what it may be when ratified as compared to V.32.
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Lance N. Hall
lance@richp1.UUCP or lance@richsun.cpg.trs.reuter.com

tnixon@hsfmsh.UUCP (Toby Nixon) (06/14/90)

In article <920@richsun.UUCP>, lance@richp1.UUCP (Lance Hall) 
writes:

-    The currently ratified standard for high speed modems is V.32 which
- consists of the following:
-
-	- 9600 bits per second

The current V.32 standard includes three operating modes: 4800bps 
non-trellis, 9600bps non-trellis, and 9600bps trellis-coded.

-	- full duplex operation over voice grade 2-wire connections
-	- fallback to V.22bis -> V.22/Bell212 -> V.21/Bell103

V.32 does not include fallback to anything.  The CCITT recently 
agreed to add an appendix to V.32 which will define an Automode 
procedure for falling back to V.22bis and V.22, which is stable but 
will not be formally adopted until 1992.  Telecommunications 
Industry Association (TIA) technical committee TR-30 is about to 
send out for committee ballot a TIA "Interim Standard" (IS-63) which 
will adopt this CCITT method as a US standard; TR-30 is continuing 
to work on this under TIA Project Number 2330 to add V.21, V.23, 
Bell 212A and Bell 103J, but it will be at least another 6 months 
before this work is complete.  At that point, we will have a US 
standard for Automode; we'll never have a CCITT standard that 
defines Bell 103 or 212 as fallbacks.

-	- 600 baud with 16 point Trellis Coded Modulation
-	      (or is 32 point TCM required/recommended/commonly used
-		  for forward error correction?)

V.32 always uses 2400 baud modulation.  The 4800bps rate uses a 
four-point constellation.  9600 uses 16-point, and 9600 with trellis 
coding uses a 32-point constellation.  Virtually all V.32 modems 
shipping now use 9600bps with trellis coding.

-	- echo cancellation necessary
-	- no inherent end-to-end reliability mode; i.e., V.42/Appendix
-	      is required for such
-	- no inherent end-to-end  compression mode; i.e., V.42bis is
-	      required for such

You are right on these points.

- I have seen reference to the V.32bis standard that is currently in
- progress which consists of the following:

The proposed draft recommendation V.32bis was agreed in CCITT Study 
Group XVII at their last meeting in April, 1990.  It will be 
submitted for approval under accellerated procedures at the October, 
1990 meeting.  If it receives unanimous support from those attending 
the meeting, it will then go out for a written ballot to all CCITT 
member nations; if 70% or more of those returning the written 
ballots vote to approve the standard, it will be adopted.  The 
soonest we will have a V.32bis recommendation is February, 1991.

-	- 14,400 bits per second
-	      (why did this not double to 19,200 bps?)

The proposed V.32bis recommendation includes operation at 4800bps 
(non-trellis-coded) and trellis-coded operation at 7200, 9600, 
12000, and 14400bps.  It did not go to 19200bps, because it is 
beyond the power of current technology to run a 512-point 
constellation (which is what it would take to run 19200 
trellis-coded on a 2400 baud carrier).  The 128-point constellation 
for 14,400 is pushing it!

-	- full duplex operation over voice grade 2-wire connections

And also two-wire leased lines.

-	- fallback mechanisms ???

The same Automode scheme as described above for V.32.

However, during V.32bis operation, the modems may rapidly shift 
speeds up and down to accommodate changing line conditions.  V.32 
modems must perform a full retrain to change speeds, which takes 
several seconds; V.32bis modems can exchange a short series of tones 
and bits, and change speeds in less than 100 milliseconds.  The 
data rate is always the same in both directions.

-	- modulation scheme ??? TCM ??? DAMQAM ??? Other ???

The modulation scheme is a straight logical extension of V.32; none 
of that DAM stuff.  The CCITT has, however, embarked on study of 
modulation schemes that will allow operation at greater than 
14,400bps, and the floor is open for contributions on new 
technologies.

-	- echo cancellation necessary
-	- no inherent end-to-end reliability mode; i.e., V.42/Appendix
-	      is required for such
-	- no inherent end-to-end  compression mode; i.e., V.42bis is
-	      required for such

Right again.

Let me know if I can answer any other questions for you.

  -- Toby Nixon
     Standards Committee Representative, Hayes Microcomputer Products
     Chairman, TIA TR-30.4
     Special Rapporteur on Question 14 (CCITT Study Group XVII)
     
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