chip@tct.uucp (Chip Salzenberg) (09/07/90)
According to CSP1DWD@OAC.UCLA.EDU (Denis DeLaRoca 825-4580, 213): > INTEL INTRODUCES $799 PLUG & PLAY 9600BPS MODEM WITH > V.32, V.42bis COMPATIBILITY, UP TO 38K THROUGHPUT That's great if you only need V.32. But the Trailblazer+ is about the same price, and it does 14kbps without compression. -- Chip Salzenberg at Teltronics/TCT <chip@tct.uucp>, <uunet!pdn!tct!chip>
bruce@ccavax.camb.com (09/09/90)
In article <26E7AC7C.39F@tct.uucp>, chip@tct.uucp (Chip Salzenberg) writes: > According to CSP1DWD@OAC.UCLA.EDU (Denis DeLaRoca 825-4580, 213): >> INTEL INTRODUCES $799 PLUG & PLAY 9600BPS MODEM WITH >> V.32, V.42bis COMPATIBILITY, UP TO 38K THROUGHPUT > > That's great if you only need V.32. But the Trailblazer+ is about the > same price, and it does 14kbps without compression. But not both directions at once... The real thing that seems to be driving down vanilla v.32 pricing is v.32bis which does 14.4 full duplex before any compression or anything. Add v.42bis, and you need 38.4 interface to get all you paid for. V.32bis + v.42bis + Group 3 FAX support to 9.6 w/ MSDOS PC S/W can ALL be had from DSI and maybe others for under $1k list, and NOONE should ever pay list for modems. Curiously, though DSI is the OEM making the AT&T-Paradyne v.32 (the color ONLY is different) I don't think Paradyne is going to offer the v.32bis version yet. The modem uses DSP, and so you can buy it cheaper as a dumb old v.32 + v.42, and (with the newer ECO boards about to be available) the upgrade is simply new microcode to get v.32bis + v.42bis + G3 FAX. The upgrade pkg is ~$200. The basic modem is 795.
john@jwt.UUCP (John Temples) (09/09/90)
In article <32173.26e9369b@ccavax.camb.com> bruce@ccavax.camb.com writes: >In article <26E7AC7C.39F@tct.uucp>, chip@tct.uucp (Chip Salzenberg) writes: >> That's great if you only need V.32. But the Trailblazer+ is about the >> same price, and it does 14kbps without compression. > >But not both directions at once... But a full speed channel in "both directions at once" buys you absolutely nothing unless your software makes use of it. Since I use my modem primarily for UUCP transfers, it seems I should want a modem that works well with UUCP. The Trailblazer+ does just that. I'd much rather have 1500 cps in one direction that I can make full use of than 1200 cps in both directions that I can only use half of. -- John W. Temples -- john@jwt.UUCP (uunet!jwt!john)
wb8foz@mthvax.cs.miami.edu (David Lesher) (09/10/90)
The real question to me on this whole V.32 vs HST vs Blazer vs Bell 103 ;-} thread is: How well do V.32 modems hold up on real_world, noisy circuits? Do they ignore noise, make do (correcting at a loss in thruput), or just give up and drop the connection? This hits me close to home. My local pairs are so full of crap that my 2400 baud Microcom MNP keeps giving up. I've overflowed the LEC's database with my bitching. They keep rolling me from pair to pair, but admit that the cable is 'tight' (short of spare pairs) and failing. I'm beginning to wish I had my Blazer (loaned out to a good home) back. -- A host is a host from coast to coast.....wb8foz@mthvax.cs.miami.edu & no one will talk to a host that's close............(305) 255-RTFM Unless the host (that isn't close)......................pob 570-335 is busy, hung or dead....................................33257-0335