sergei@cdp.UUCP (01/03/91)
Dear friends;we are from the Soviet Union and we work on setting
up a computer network in the S.U. which will be called GlasNet and
will be a part of APC. It's a charity non-profit project sponsored
by the International Foundation for the Survival and Development
of Humanity. We really need your help. There are modems in our country
which are not good for our purposes. And due to the bad conditions
of our economy most organizations are unable to pay for foreign made
modems in hard currency ( rouble is not convertible ). Non-profit
institutions are the poorest. Maybe some of you could suggest some
way of settling it. It could be some kind of joint production of modems
in the U.S.S.R. We are most interested in MNP modems.Also if some of you
got modems which you don't use we would appreciate if you donated them
to GlasNet to make some more Soviets happy members of our community.
Our Email addresses are pn:sergei or pn:alexz.
With respect Alex Zaitsev and Sergei
Boukhonin, GlasNet staff members.sichermn@beach.csulb.edu (Jeff Sicherman) (01/05/91)
Excuse the followup instead of a reply but cant send to uucp addresses with our mailer ... If the originators of this request want to attract mercenary Americans to donate equipment it would be best for them to establish and register a non-profit corporation and try to get it registered as a charity so that donators can take charitable tax deductions. Also, since it is possible that some kinds of computer equipment (including modems) may still be embargoes/contraband to the USSR, it would be best for such a US-based agency to receive the equipment and take responsibility for clearing it through customs. Jeff Sicherman
napo@niksula.hut.fi (Hannu Napari) (01/06/91)
In article <1991Jan4.192230.26721@beach.csulb.edu> sichermn@beach.csulb.edu (Jeff Sicherman) writes: >Excuse the followup instead of a reply but cant send to uucp addresses >with our mailer ... [Blahblah...] It seems to me that the posting concering the shortage of modems in the USSR was a fraud. As far as I know, all the news traffic to the USSR goes through fuug.fi and they use internet addressing, not UUCP. -- Napo $ Hey Nath, hama para kripa kijiye. Door kara andhakar, gyan (leon) $ ka aloka dijiye, binsa dwesh lobha bamese chhin lijiye, $ manamey prem shanti bhar dijiye... $
jpr@jpradley.jpr.com (Jean-Pierre Radley) (01/06/91)
In article <NAPO.91Jan5233523@elektra.hut.fi> napo@niksula.hut.fi (Hannu Napari) writes: >It seems to me that the posting concering the shortage of modems in the USSR >was a fraud. As far as I know, all the news traffic to the USSR goes >through fuug.fi and they use internet addressing, not UUCP. Maybe, and maybe not. I tracked down the map listing for the site whence came the request: #N cdp #S AT/386; Interactive 2.0.2 (System V Release 3.2) #O Community Data Processing (CdP) #C Scott Weikart #E cdp!postmaster, cdp!scott #T +1 415 322 9069 #P 1010 Doyle, #9, Menlo Park, CA 94025 #L 37 33 40 N / 122 15 55 W #R EcoNet; PeaceNet; donate unneeded hardware for a tax deduction! #U sgi #W cdp!scott (Scott Weikart); Wed Jun 13 17:26:02 PDT 1990 # cdp hplabs(DIRECT), labrea(DIRECT), sgi(DIRECT), pyramid(DIRECT), sobell(DIRECT) Perhaps some USSRians have a login on cdp? Jean-Pierre Radley NYC Public Unix jpr@jpr.com CIS: 72160,1341
root@zswamp.fidonet.org (Geoffrey Welsh) (01/07/91)
Hannu Napari (napo@niksula.hut.fi ) wrote: >It seems to me that the posting concering the shortage of >modems in the USSR >was a fraud. As far as I know, all the news traffic to the >USSR goes >through fuug.fi and they use internet addressing, not UUCP. I recognized the hostname in the posting (cdp.UUCP) and I believe that the postings may have been genuine. I do not wish to make any political statement, but am unsure how to phrase this diplomatically: if I remember correctly, cdp is a liberal organization involved in bringing computing to the people, or something like that - sorry if I'm offbase on that! Anyways, I would not be at all surprised to find them involved in some project which would bring modems to the Soviet Union. Geoff DISCLAIMER: I cannot stress sufficiently that this info is off the top of my head and more poorly worded than anything else I've ever written. I apologize in advance for any offense taken, it was purely unintentional and the result of nothing more sinister than criminal clumsiness! -- UUCP: watmath!xenitec!zswamp!root | 602-66 Mooregate Crescent Internet: root@zswamp.fidonet.org | Kitchener, Ontario FidoNet: SYSOP, 1:221/171 | N2M 5E6 CANADA Data: (519) 742-8939 | (519) 741-9553 MC Hammer, n. Device used to ensure firm seating of MicroChannel boards Try our new Molson 'C' compiler... it specializes in 'case' statements!
dcaulkins@cdp.UUCP (01/07/91)
This request for modems is from two GlasNet staff members in our Moscow office. For those who may not know about it, here's some information on the GlasNet project. The International Foundation (Moscow, Washington DC, Stockholm, Sofia) is working on a project called "GlasNet," a computer network to be created in the Soviet Union. The International Foundation is registered as a non-profit in the USA; the US addresses are: GlasNet West 437 Mundel Way Los Altos, CA 94022 (415)948-5753 voice (415)948-1474 fax cdp!dcaulkins@labrea.stanford.edu Email International Foundation 11 Dupont Circle 6th Floor Washington, DC 20036 (202)745-1900 voice cdp!intldc@labrea.stanford.edu Email The purpose of GlasNet will be to offer easy and inexpensive information exchange between diverse groups within the USSR, including scientists, educators, cultural groups, journalists, environmentalists, computer enthusiasts, etc.; it will also enable these Soviet groups to correspond electronically with their counterparts in the Americas, Europe, and Asia. GlasNet will be part of the Association for Progressive Computing (APC), a global network-of-networks with host computers in Australia (Pegasus), Brazil (AlterNex), Canada (Web), Great Britain (GreenNet), Nicaragua (Nicarao), Sweden (FredsNaetet), and the USA (PeaceNet,EcoNet). The first GlasNet host computer will be a 386 computer running UNIX; it will use the standard APC electronic mail, conferencing, and networking software. The initial hardware configuration will support 5,000 user accounts; of these 10 to 30 can be on line simultaneously. Present plans call for GlasNet to be operational in early 1991. Dave Caulkins GlasNet Director
shaw@saturn.med.ge.com (Tom Shaw ct58 5084) (01/12/91)
In article <229@platypus.uofs.edu> bill@platypus.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon) writes: >In article <1111100016@cdp>, dcaulkins@cdp.UUCP writes: >> >> Modems are indeed in short supply in the USSR. Lack of them has >> slowed networking in the USSR. >> > >I personally would like to see networking in this country expanded to >include High Schools and Elementary Schools before we start sending >equipment and aid to other countries (including the Soviet Union.) > >We have too many Computer Illiterate people here to even consider helping >the rest of the world. What ever happened to the proverb "Charity begins >at home." > > > >-- > > Bill Gunshannon | If this statement wasn't here, > bill@platypus.uofs.edu | This space would be left intentionally blank I'd like to see some more networking too, but I heartly endorse anyone who wants to network their own country. What I'd really like to see is the reference section of the Library of Congress on-line with "realtime" access or a fast as possible. My 300 soles or what ever the exchange rate is these days. Tom -- --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Thomas A. Shaw | Roman rule: G.E. Medical Systems | The one who says it cannot be done 16800 West Ryerson Rd NB-920 | should never interrupt the one who New Berlin, WI 53151 | is doing it. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- uucp: {uunet!crdgw1|sun!sunbird}!gemed!shaw internet: shawta@gemed.ge.com internet: shawta@comet.med.ge.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------