aris@tabbs.UUCP (Aris Stathakis) (02/12/91)
I believe that in the UK a modem called the Dowty (sp?) that is basically a re-labled trailblazer. Could some kind soul out there tell me exactly what the differences are between the two (besides the name) and if there are any incompatibilites? Thanks Aris -- Aris Stathakis | Bang: ..!uunet!ddsw1!olsa99!tabbs!aris or aris@tabbs.UUCP - - - Never let your schooling interfere with your education. -
ronald@robobar.co.uk (Ronald S H Khoo) (02/13/91)
aris@tabbs.UUCP (Aris Stathakis) writes: > I believe that in the UK a modem called the Dowty (sp?) that is basically > a re-labled trailblazer. Could some kind soul out there tell me exactly > what the differences are between the two (besides the name) and if there > are any incompatibilites? Dowty will sell you a Telebit with "Dowty" printed on the front. As far as I know, only the TB+ is available, and the firmware revision is old, and modified to conform to Dowty's (stupid) idea of what the British PTT regulations are. E.g. no more than 5 failed calls to any one number in 4 hours (or something like that) and no more than a dozen or so of such "blacklisted" numbers allowed before the modem curls up and needs to be powered on and off again. Bloody ridiculous. Also, they have a bunch of illiterate monkeys who write their manuals. But other than that, they're normal Telebits and work as usual. There's one on my desk. It's illegal to use a non-Dowty Telebit in the UK as it won't have a PTT approval sticker on its bottom. (Doesn't stop them working though, I'm told :-) Oh, and the markup is pretty gross as well. -- Ronald Khoo <ronald@robobar.co.uk> +44 81 991 1142 (O) +44 71 229 7741 (H)
peter@micromuse.co.uk (Peter Galbavy) (02/15/91)
In article <1991Feb13.154145.4473@robobar.co.uk> ronald@robobar.co.uk (Ronald S H Khoo) writes: >the British PTT regulations are. E.g. no more than 5 failed calls >to any one number in 4 hours (or something like that) and no more than >a dozen or so of such "blacklisted" numbers allowed before the modem >curls up and needs to be powered on and off again. Bloody ridiculous. >Also, they have a bunch of illiterate monkeys who write their manuals. IMO - totally pointless, just gives agravation. (sp?) >But other than that, they're normal Telebits and work as usual. >There's one on my desk. It's illegal to use a non-Dowty Telebit >in the UK as it won't have a PTT approval sticker on its bottom. >(Doesn't stop them working though, I'm told :-) Oh, what makes you say that ? ;-) > >Oh, and the markup is pretty gross as well. Wrong words - sick would be closer. You could (if it were not for BABT approval problems) bring them in at almost retail and still make a sick margin to beat Dowty on price. Off the top of my head - they now have the T2500 equivalent available at 1400 pounds (about $US 2800 now !). That's sick. -- Peter Galbavy Writing at Home, but working for Micromuse Ltd, who don't even know I am posting, and probably don't care, so this ain't nothing to do with them... But if you must, call me daytime on +44 71 352 7774. **BEEP**
garvey@johnny5.uucp (Joe Garvey) (02/17/91)
> Wrong words - sick would be closer. You could (if it were not for BABT > approval problems) bring them in at almost retail and still make a > sick margin to beat Dowty on price. Off the top of my head - they now > have the T2500 equivalent available at 1400 pounds (about $US 2800 now > !). That's sick. I'm sorry, I don't beleive this. 1400 pounds cannot equal 2800 US dollars. I don't have the financial section handy, but ... That would mean 1 pound = .5 US dollar. Last I remember it was more like 1 dollar = 1.35 pounds (I can actual remember a time when it was over 2 pounds to the dollar). Assuming I'm some where in the ball park (+/- 30 cents)... Then 1400 pounds ~= 1037 US dollars. This is about what you'd pay in the US... though it's below list price from Telebit (last time *I* asked), it's slightly above what the market price is. Considering transport to the UK from Sunnyvale California, then it might be reasonable. Question: Is it 100 pence to a pound? What fraction is a quid (sp?)? -- Joe Garvey uucp: sumax!ole!johnny5!garvey J5 Research registration has been sent in, though we're Bothell, Wa. not in the maps yet.
bill@bilver.uucp (Bill Vermillion) (02/18/91)
In article <1991Feb16.205454.21893@johnny5.uucp> garvey@johnny5.uucp (Joe Garvey) writes: >> Wrong words - sick would be closer. You could (if it were not for BABT >> approval problems) bring them in at almost retail and still make a >> sick margin to beat Dowty on price. Off the top of my head - they now >> have the T2500 equivalent available at 1400 pounds (about $US 2800 now >> !). That's sick. >I'm sorry, I don't beleive this. 1400 pounds cannot equal 2800 US dollars. >I don't have the financial section handy, but ... >That would mean 1 pound = .5 US dollar. Last I remember it was more >like 1 dollar = 1.35 pounds (I can actual remember a time when it was over >2 pounds to the dollar). Assuming I'm some where in the ball park (+/- 30 >cents)... Then 1400 pounds ~= 1037 US dollars. Wednesdays close had 1 pound at $1.992. Thursday was slight lower. I wouldn't quibble over 8/10th of a cent. I think it also crossed the $2.00 point earlier in the week. As of Wednesday 1400 pounds was equal to $2797.20 American. You'd better believe it. The dollar is NOT a healthy item. -- Bill Vermillion - UUCP: uunet!tarpit!bilver!bill : bill@bilver.UUCP
tony@mwuk.UUCP (Tony Mountifield) (02/18/91)
In article <1991Feb16.205454.21893@johnny5.uucp> garvey@johnny5.uucp (Joe Garvey) writes: ..... > > have the T2500 equivalent available at 1400 pounds (about $US 2800 now > > !). That's sick. > > I'm sorry, I don't beleive this. 1400 pounds cannot equal 2800 US dollars. > I don't have the financial section handy, but ... > > That would mean 1 pound = .5 US dollar. No, it would mean 1 pound = 2 US dollar (just divide both numbers by 1400 :-) > Last I remember it was more > like 1 dollar = 1.35 pounds (I can actual remember a time when it was over > 2 pounds to the dollar). Assuming I'm some where in the ball park (+/- 30 > cents)... Then 1400 pounds ~= 1037 US dollars. Ummm, I think you're remembering upside-down. Currently, the pound buys somewhere between $1.90 and $2.00. The lowest the pound got to (sometime in the last few years) was around $1.10 or just under, I believe. In the dim and distant past, I think a pound could buy $4 or more. > This is about what you'd pay in the US... though it's below list price > from Telebit (last time *I* asked), it's slightly above what the market > price is. Considering transport to the UK from Sunnyvale California, then > it might be reasonable. Well it does illustrate the heavily-loaded price over here. > Question: Is it 100 pence to a pound? What fraction is a quid (sp?)? Yes, 100 pence = 1 pound. A quid is just a slang word for a pound (like buck is for dollar). > Joe Garvey uucp: sumax!ole!johnny5!garvey > J5 Research registration has been sent in, though we're > Bothell, Wa. not in the maps yet. Tony. -- Tony Mountifield. | Microware Systems (UK) Ltd. MAIL: tony@mwuk.uucp | Leylands Farm, Nobs Crook, INET: tony%mwuk.uucp@ukc.ac.uk | Colden Common, WINCHESTER, SO21 1TH. UUCP: ...!mcsun!ukc!mwuk!tony | Tel: 0703 601990 Fax: 0703 601991 **** OS-9, OS-9000 Real Time Systems **** MS-DOS - just say "No!" ****
pjmp@gec-rl-hrc.co.uk (Peter J M Polkinghorne) (02/20/91)
In article <269@mwuk.UUCP> tony@mwuk.UUCP (Tony Mountifield) writes: >In article <1991Feb16.205454.21893@johnny5.uucp> garvey@johnny5.uucp (Joe Garvey) writes: >..... >> > have the T2500 equivalent available at 1400 pounds (about $US 2800 now >> > !). That's sick. >> Just a quick price update - they are now on sale from a distributor Logitek at 1100 pounds and UKUUG members get a 30% discount - so with a bit of haggling things should not look quite so horrendous. But the usual rule of thumb for US equipment (eg Suns) is $1 = 1 pound. So get rich sell stuff to us! Peter Polkinghorne