hpchen@celestial.Eng.Sun.COM (Huei-Ping Chen) (06/02/91)
my friends have been complaining about my home phone very hard to get through, since I have been dailing-up from home to my work station at work a lot. I know there is a phone service "CALL WAITING", while you are on the phone, if someone is trying to get through, it will give you a beep tone. my question is: is there a way while the modem is using the phone line, the modem can detect the CALL-WATING signal, and warns you somebody is trying to call you?? thanks in advance for any response.
mucit@slate.cs.rochester.edu (Bulent Murtezaoglu) (06/02/91)
> my question is: is there a way while the modem is using the phone line, > the modem can detect the CALL-WATING signal, and warns you somebody is trying > to call you?? Yeah, it shows up as garbage on your screen, you can then stop what you're doing and yell at the poor person who was trying to call you :). I was getting pretty upset when Rochester Telephone turned it on on my line for free as a trial offer. I suggest getting another line if not missing phone calls is more important to you than work and money. -Mucit PS: I've never really attempted to suspend the modem communication take the call and then resume. Has anyone tried this?
bangell%peruvian.utah.edu@cs.utah.edu (Bob Angell) (06/03/91)
In article <MUCIT.91Jun2121718@slate.cs.rochester.edu> mucit@slate.cs.rochester.edu (Bulent Murtezaoglu) writes: >> my question is: is there a way while the modem is using the phone line, >> the modem can detect the CALL-WATING signal, and warns you somebody is trying >> to call you?? > > >Yeah, it shows up as garbage on your screen, you can then stop what you're >doing and yell at the poor person who was trying to call you :). I was getting >pretty upset when Rochester Telephone turned it on on my line for free as a >trial offer. I suggest getting another line if not missing phone calls >is more important to you than work and money. > I have call waiting and use my modem day and night....I turn the feature OFF when I dont want to be interrupted and leave it alone when I need to have the calls come through. Here in Utah, the option to diable the feature is *70. Hope this helps. -Bob- bangell@peruvian.utah.edu; bangell@cc.utah.edu; angellrl@cc.utah.edu - Opinions are Mine, Not that of the University of Utah -
patrick@chinet.chi.il.us (Patrick A. Townson) (06/03/91)
In article <14380@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM> hpchen@celestial.Eng.Sun.COM (Huei-Ping Chen) writes: >my friends have been complaining about my home phone very hard to get >through, since I have been dailing-up from home to my work station at work >a lot. >I know there is a phone service "CALL WAITING", while you are on the phone, >if someone is trying to get through, it will give you a beep tone. >my question is: is there a way while the modem is using the phone line, >the modem can detect the CALL-WATING signal, and warns you somebody is trying >to call you?? Sure there is. The modem garbages your screen just before losing carrier and hanging up ... then your phone rings and the new caller is on the line. :) I know that is not the answer you wanted! You cannot put a modem call 'on hold' to take a call-waiting on the same line. A human ear knows what it is listening to; all the modem knows is it does not hear carrier from the other end any longer (while on hold). If your modem has a register you can set to say how long the modem should wait with loss of carrier before hanging up, you can set this to a very high value, and instead of sending garbage to your screen *and* disconnecting when it hears a call waiting tone, it will merely send the garbage and you have to take this as a hint to either gracefully save your work and log out (then take the new call) or ignore the call-waiting and continue to get a couple more rounds of garbage before the caller hangs up. Call waiting and modems make a very bad pair. NEVER get call waiting on a line you ordinarily use for modems. Better to get two physical lines from the phone company instead for only a little more money. PAT -- Patrick Townson patrick@chinet.chi.il.us / ptownson@eecs.nwu.edu / US Mail: 60690-1570 FIDO: 115/743 / AT&T Mail: 529-6378 (!ptownson) / MCI Mail: 222-4956
curt@cynic.wimsey.bc.ca (Curt Sampson) (06/03/91)
In article <MUCIT.91Jun2121718@slate.cs.rochester.edu> mucit@slate.cs.rochester.edu (Bulent Murtezaoglu) writes: > PS: I've never really attempted to suspend the modem communication take the > call and then resume. Has anyone tried this? I haven't done it myself, but some people around here apparently do it. You have to set your loss of carrier timeout (S10 on modems that use you-know-who's command set) to, say, 20-30 seconds. Then you can disconnect the modem, pick up the phone, the the person to get lost (:-)) and then hang up the phone and reconnect the modem. Make sure you set the timeout on both ends, though, not just one. cjs -- Curt Sampson | curt@cynic.uucp | ``Unix is one big `in' joke.'' curt@cynic.wimsey.bc.ca | -- Ullrich_Fischer@mindlink.bc.ca
tgkreimer@miavx2.ham.muohio.edu (Tom Kreimer) (06/04/91)
In article <1991Jun02.205244.24464@chinet.chi.il.us>, patrick@chinet.chi.il.us (Patrick A. Townson) writes: > In article <14380@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM> hpchen@celestial.Eng.Sun.COM > (Huei-Ping Chen) writes: > Call waiting and modems make a very bad pair. NEVER get call waiting on a > line you ordinarily use for modems. Better to get two physical lines from > the phone company instead for only a little more money. I know this is getting off the subject, but in some (all?) areas with call waiting, you can disable the service for the current call, usually by dialing the # key and a nubmer. This way, your modem won't be interupted during the current (outgoing) call, and then call waiting will return for the next call. Check the front of your phone book. There is all kinds of interesting info there :-) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Tom Kreimer --- Miami University --- Oxford, Ohio tgkreimer@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu --- tgkreimer@miavx2.bitnet < > Standard disclaimer < > No flames < > Reply/w E-mail <x> Have a nice day!
jimv@hienergy.East.Sun.COM (Jim Vienneau - Sun Microsystems) (06/04/91)
>I know this is getting off the subject, but in some (all?) areas with call >waiting, you can disable the service for the current call, usually by dialing Some maybe, but not all. Call waiting was not disableable on my phone system (fairly early ESS system). I had to cancel the service to keep it from dumping my downloads. Jim Vienneau, Sun Microsystems Inc - Billerica, MA Email: jvienneau@east.sun.com Amateur Radio: WB1B Good old Ma Bell (well old anyway): (508)671-0372
ken@slhisc.uucp (Ken Stamm) (06/06/91)
In article <1991Jun02.205244.24464@chinet.chi.il.us> patrick@chinet.chi.il.us (Patrick A. Townson) writes: > >In article <14380@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM> hpchen@celestial.Eng.Sun.COM >(Huei-Ping Chen) writes: > >>my friends have been complaining about my home phone very hard to get >>through, since I have been dailing-up from home to my work station at work >>a lot. >>I know there is a phone service "CALL WAITING", while you are on the phone, >>if someone is trying to get through, it will give you a beep tone. > >Call waiting and modems make a very bad pair. NEVER get call waiting on a >line you ordinarily use for modems. Better to get two physical lines from >the phone company instead for only a little more money. Sure, but if you can't afford a second phone line, you can usually disable call waiting on a one-time basis for a call by prefixing whatever you were going to dial with *70 . Anyone calling will then get a busy. Call waiting is re-enabled automatically at hangup. This works in most electronic exchanges offering call waiting. Try it. I know of no way to disable call waiting on incoming calls. (anyone?) -- Ken Stamm (uunet.uu.net!slcpi!slhisc!ken) (212)341-3868
berk@techsys.UUCP (techsys consulting) (06/07/91)
Yes, Jim, a modem CAN handle c/w.... if you set your carrier loss hangup reg. right. But the other modem also has to be able to cope. Biggest problem, is getting the comm programs to 1) not disconnect, and 2) be able to restart/resend lost packs Berk ...usc!celia!techsys!berk
louk@tslwat.UUCP (Lou Kates) (06/09/91)
In article <1991Jun02.205244.24464@chinet.chi.il.us> patrick@chinet.chi.il.us (Patrick A. Townson) writes: >Call waiting and modems make a very bad pair. NEVER get call waiting on a >line you ordinarily use for modems. Better to get two physical lines from >the phone company instead for only a little more money. > I have call waiting and a modem on the same line and I find it quite convenient. When a call comes in I get garbage on the screen so I know to turn off the modem and pick up the phone. I normally am using vi which can recover its session so when I get back on I just recover it and continue. Also note that if you don't want this behaviour then you can disable the call waiting by dialing *70 prior to dialing the outgoing call. I generally prefer to be able to continue to get my calls so I don't disable it. Lou Kates, Teleride Sage Ltd., louk%tslwat@watmath.waterloo.edu 519-725-0646
tnixon@hayes.uucp (06/11/91)
In article <1991Jun5.213912.777@slhisc.uucp>, ken@slhisc.uucp (Ken Stamm) writes: > I know of no way to disable call waiting on incoming calls. (anyone?) Sure. Use this command string to answer the call: ATX1D!,*70,;A Most phone systems that allow *70 to cancel call waiting also allow you to cancel it on the current call by hook-flashing and dialing *70. You're then placed back in the call (some require you to hook-flash again to get back, in which case you'd add "!," before the semicolon. SOME phone systems require you to also subscribe to Three-Way Calling before this function will work. This, of course, doesn't work with Auto Answer (S0>0), only with software-controlled answer. You may want to set S8=1 so the commas only last 1 second instead of 2 seconds. If you do this, then this whole process lasts only about four seconds, less than one ring cycle. -- Toby Nixon, Principal Engineer | Voice +1-404-840-9200 Telex 151243420 Hayes Microcomputer Products Inc. | Fax +1-404-447-0178 CIS 70271,404 P.O. Box 105203 | UUCP uunet!hayes!tnixon AT&T !tnixon Atlanta, Georgia 30348 USA | Internet hayes!tnixon@uunet.uu.net