jbrandt@nyx.UUCP (joe brandt) (05/31/90)
Does anybody have any info on how often 9600 baud modems use their fallback mode on normal dialup lines? I have heard that "commercial" grade lines dont have the bandwidth or 'quality' for these modems to reliably operate at full speed. Am I wasting my money on these modems? Joe Brandt (brandt@sal.den.mmc.com direct email)
jiro@shaman.com (Jiro Nakamura) (06/18/91)
In article <13483@pt.cs.cmu.edu> rab@speech1.cs.cmu.edu (Robert Brennan) writes: > I am looking for a new pair of 9600 baud modems. I have been using two > Trailblazers very successfully but we need to purchase additional modems. > They need to be as reliable and as fast, even faster if possible, than > the Trailblazers, work reliably with SLIP and ideally have fax capabilities. > (I am not even sure there are 9600 baud modems with fax capabilities, but it > would be nice.) > So, is the Trailblazer still the way to go or are there others that are > better? Why not get a T1600 which is going to be upgraded to T1600 which is going to be upgraded to v32bis real soon now, or the T2500 which has v32 but no promise of an upgrade. I use a T2500 and am pretty happy with it. Telebit tech support is the tops, though. :-) - jiro nakamura jiro@shaman.com ps. Why did you post this to comp.sys.next only? pps. No financial connections to Telebit except as a customer. -- Jiro Nakamura jiro@shaman.com Shaman Consulting (607) 256-5125 VOICE "Bring your dead, dying shamans here!" (607) 277-1440 FAX/Data
larry@nstar.rn.com (Larry Snyder) (06/19/91)
jiro@shaman.com (Jiro Nakamura) writes: > Why not get a T1600 which is going to be upgraded to T1600 which is going >to be upgraded to v32bis real soon now, or the T2500 which has v32 but why even wait on Telebit when other vendors have been shipping v.32bis now for 6 months? -- Larry Snyder, NSTAR Public Access Unix 219-289-0287/317-251-7391 HST/PEP/V.32/v.32bis/v.42bis regional UUCP mapping coordinator {larry@nstar.rn.com, ..!uunet!nstar.rn.com!larry}
jchin@wimsey.bc.ca (Joseph Chin) (06/19/91)
In article <1991Jun18.171256.2393@nstar.rn.com> larry@nstar.rn.com (Larry Snyder) writes: >jiro@shaman.com (Jiro Nakamura) writes: > >> Why not get a T1600 which is going to be upgraded to T1600 which is going >>to be upgraded to v32bis real soon now, or the T2500 which has v32 but > >why even wait on Telebit when other vendors have been shipping v.32bis >now for 6 months? > >-- > Larry Snyder, NSTAR Public Access Unix 219-289-0287/317-251-7391 > HST/PEP/V.32/v.32bis/v.42bis > regional UUCP mapping coordinator > {larry@nstar.rn.com, ..!uunet!nstar.rn.com!larry} Larry's right! I've done some shopping around and found the US Robotics Courier V.32bis to be a damn good deal for a high end (and extremely reliable) modem. It is compatible with more V.32 and V.32bis modems than other brands which I've evaluated (ATI, Microcom). The pricing is quite competitive too. For example, I am selling the USR Courier V.32bis external modem for less than $700 (Canadian), and I am sure mail order sources in the US sell it for even lower price. :-) Joe jchin@van-bc.wimsey.bc.ca -- Joseph Chin Wordcraft Systems Corporation jchin@van-bc.wimsey.bc.ca 201-434 West 12th Avenue (604)879-9687 (voice & NeXTfax) Vancouver, B.C., Canada V5Y 1V3 ********************* NeXT Registered Developer ********************
anderson@dogie.macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson) (06/19/91)
In article <1991Jun18.185025.21642@wimsey.bc.ca> jchin@wimsey.bc.ca (Joseph Chin) writes: >Larry's right! I've done some shopping around and found the US Robotics >Courier V.32bis to be a damn good deal for a high end (and extremely reliable) >modem. It is compatible with more V.32 and V.32bis modems than other brands >which I've evaluated (ATI, Microcom). The pricing is quite competitive too. >For example, I am selling the USR Courier V.32bis external modem for less than >$700 (Canadian), and I am sure mail order sources in the US sell it for even >lower price. I bought a MultiTech V32 for $551. Haven't hooked to it the NeXT yet, but will in the next couple days, as I just picked up a cable today. I've been using this modem for some months now, though, to call our Vaxes (9600 Reliable Compressed is a great thing to see after connecting!). -- Jess Anderson <> Madison Academic Computing Center <> University of Wisconsin Internet: anderson@macc.wisc.edu <-best, UUCP:{}!uwvax!macc.wisc.edu!anderson NeXTmail w/attachments: anderson@yak.macc.wisc.edu Bitnet: anderson@wiscmacc Room 3130 <> 1210 West Dayton Street / Madison WI 53706 <> Phone 608/262-5888
perstoro@netmbx.UUCP (Wilhelm Schaefer) (06/19/91)
anderson@dogie.macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson) writes: >I bought a MultiTech V32 for $551. Haven't hooked to it the >NeXT yet, but will in the next couple days, as I just picked >up a cable today. >I've been using this modem for some months now, though, to >call our Vaxes (9600 Reliable Compressed is a great thing >to see after connecting!). Hmm - must be real good. Is it possible to get one of these over here. (to germany) In other words. May I order the modem by e-mail, or is there an other way to get it? Thanks a lot and so long -- --- good old perstoro --- -- perstoro@netmbx.in-berlin.de ufa06@opal.cs.tu-berlin.de
smb@data.com (Steven M. Boker) (06/30/91)
In article <13483@pt.cs.cmu.edu> rab@speech1.cs.cmu.edu (Robert Brennan) writes: > I am looking for a new pair of 9600 baud modems. I have been using two > Trailblazers very successfully but we need to purchase additional modems. I must put in a vote for Trailblazer here. I have an old trailblazer plus which Telebit has upgraded twice for free (Yoiks!). These people have been the some of the most knowlegeable and conscientious technical support folks I've ever encountered. No connection with Telebit other than as a recipient of the new ROMs which upgrade my Trailblazer to V.42bis. -- #====#====#====#====#====#====#====#====#====#====#====#====#====#====#====# # Steve Boker # "Two's bifurcation # # smb@data.com # but three's chaotic" # #====#====#====#====#====#====#====#====#====#====#====#====#====#====#====#
kherron@ms.uky.edu (Kenneth Herron) (06/30/91)
smb@data.com (Steven M. Boker) writes: >In article <13483@pt.cs.cmu.edu> rab@speech1.cs.cmu.edu (Robert Brennan) >writes: >> I am looking for a new pair of 9600 baud modems. I have been using two >> Trailblazers very successfully but we need to purchase additional modems. >I must put in a vote for Trailblazer here. I concur. Telebit Tech support is far and away better than that of any other company I've dealt with. Telebit manuals are the best I've seen. And they stand behind their product; I've received a free replacement power supply for my out-of-warranty T1000, and am right now testing a free ROM upgrade for one of our Trailblazers (needed because of their change to PEP). Companies like Telebit deserve to be supported. -- Kenneth Herron kherron@ms.uky.edu University of Kentucky +1 606 257 2975 Department of Mathematics "So this won't be a total loss, can you make it so guys get to throw their mothers-in-law in?" "Sure, why not?"
hartzell@sumex-aim.Stanford.EDU (George Hartzell) (07/01/91)
In article <1991Jun30.024722.18414@ms.uky.edu> kherron@ms.uky.edu (Kenneth Herron) writes: smb@data.com (Steven M. Boker) writes: >In article <13483@pt.cs.cmu.edu> rab@speech1.cs.cmu.edu (Robert Brennan) >writes: >> I am looking for a new pair of 9600 baud modems. I have been using two >> Trailblazers very successfully but we need to purchase additional modems. >I must put in a vote for Trailblazer here. I concur. Telebit Tech support is far and away better than that of any other company I've dealt with. Telebit manuals are the best I've seen. And they stand behind their product; I've received a free replacement power supply for my out-of-warranty T1000, and am right now testing a free ROM upgrade for one of our Trailblazers (needed because of their change to PEP). Companies like Telebit deserve to be supported. [This is part of an ongoing discussion. Before going with Telebit based on past performance, go back and skim this thread. Pay attention to Marty's (likier@telebit.com) article about Telebit's diversification and allocation of scarce resources to non-modem projects.] It is sentiment like this that encouraged me to buy my T1600's. Based on their past performance I figured I wouldn't have to dig too deep when the time came to upgrade the newly designed T1600 to the V.32bis standard. I am quite disturbed by the news that this upgrade will cost ~$250. Apparently the engineers designing the T1600 did not give it (or maybe management chose to not have them give it, who knows...) enough muscle to do V.32bis, so a hardware swap is necessary. I wonder what that hardware *really* cost Telebit. Not including development costs, advertising, support, etc... I agree that these things need to be recovered, but I already paid for that when I bought the modem the first time around. The thought that they might be using this as an opportunity to make money on me twice only makes me feel more like I made a mistake. One was to summarize my feelings on this matter is that I never intended to buy a V.32 modem, I was shopping for a V.32bis modem. I was willing to consider vendors who didn't quite have their V.32bis modem out yet, but only those whose product might be "worth the wait" and whose past performance suggested that the upgrade path wouldn't be too traumatic. Like I said in a previous article, I'm going to sit tight until the upgrade is really available and all the facts are in before I decide once and for all whether or not I made a mistake. I'm not too optimistic though; it appears that the outcome is going to be that I could have three V.32bis modems with 6 months time in the field for the price my two Telebits. Loyalty can be quite expensive... g. -- George Hartzell voice: (415) 725-7421 Stanford Yeast Genome Project fax: (415)-723-7016 Stanford School of Medicine, Rm S337 email: hartzell@sumex-aim.Stanford.EDU Stanford, CA 94305-5120