[comp.terminals] 5620s

trent@cit-vax.Caltech.Edu (Ray Trent) (11/21/86)

Speaking of the DMD5620 (which I think is a good terminak even though
we don't have the layers software running), does anyone out there
have layers running over an Ethernet LAN? 

We have this stupid arrangement of Ungerman-Bass NIUs as terminak
concentraters linked by EtherStrands. The problem (as I understand it...
I haven't hacked on this too much) is that the xt driver used by 
layers et al is assumed to have hardware flow control. Is there a 
way to get around this requirement? (We're working on getting a few
HFC lines working, but it would be nice if there was some way to
use software/no flow control instead)


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gwyn@brl-smoke.ARPA (Doug Gwyn ) (11/22/86)

In article <1219@cit-vax.Caltech.Edu> trent@cit-vax.UUCP (Ray Trent) writes:
>We have this stupid arrangement of Ungerman-Bass NIUs as terminak
>concentraters linked by EtherStrands. The problem (as I understand it...
>I haven't hacked on this too much) is that the xt driver used by 
>layers et al is assumed to have hardware flow control. Is there a 
>way to get around this requirement?

Layers mode terminal<->host communication is done using an error-correcting
packet protocol; neither DC3/DC1 nor hardware handshaking is required.
Some LANs, perhaps including yours (with which I am not familiar), do not
support full 8-bit transparency.  If that is the problem, then you should
use the special "encoding" kludge.  For DMD firmware rev 2.0 (8;7;5), this
can be enabled using the Set-Up Host Options menu.  Older DMDs can be used
with encoding by setting DMDLOAD=hex in one's environment.

More information on this is given in the 5620 DMD Rel. 2.0 Administrator
Guide, AT&T select code 306-141.

kludge@gitpyr.gatech.EDU (Scott Dorsey) (11/24/86)

In article <1219@cit-vax.Caltech.Edu> trent@cit-vax.UUCP (Ray Trent) writes:
>Speaking of the DMD5620 (which I think is a good terminak even though
>we don't have the layers software running), does anyone out there
>have layers running over an Ethernet LAN? 

   Sounds familiar.  If you disable flow control on the NIU's, it seems to
work at slower baud rates, as long as you do not overflow the NIU buffer.  
With xon/xoff set, the flow control chars are used as real control stuff,
causing strange things to happen.  
   Hardware flow control is the only reasonable way to go about things.
Also, if you have the newer U/B 180 NIU's, you might find yourself in
a deeper hole than you think.  layers doesn't seem to work properly on the
180, for reasons I am not quite sure of.  But I am sure someone more
knowlegeable can answer it for me (please!).
-- 
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    Georgia Institute of Technology, Box 36681, Atlanta, Georgia 30332
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