djn@nmtsun.nmt.edu (David J. Northrop) (02/16/88)
As of about one hour ago, we're able to talk with other sites within New Mexico via high speed TCP/IP link which will soon be hooked into the NSFNet (end of the month or so). I need to find out which software and versions I should be running so that I can stop using modems for communications with the outside world. Specifically, how do I get UUCP to run over a TCP/IP and/or TELNET connection? Do I need new software (we're running SunOS v3.5) or is there some way I can beat on L-devices to know about using telnet to call a remote system. Actually, I could care less about UUCP if I can make mail and news work, but first things first. Your help is greatly appreciated. --- David J. Northrop ...!ihnp4!lanl!unm-la!unmvax!nmtsun!djn NMTech Computer Center ...!cmcl2!/ Campus Station djn@nmtsun.nmt.edu Socorro, NM 87801 (505) 835-5735 --- Message Ends ---
mouse@mcgill-vision.UUCP (der Mouse) (03/17/88)
In article <1407@nmtsun.nmt.edu>, djn@nmtsun.nmt.edu (David J. Northrop) writes: > Specifically, how do I get UUCP to run over a TCP/IP and/or TELNET > connection? Do I need new software (we're running SunOS v3.5) or is > there some way I can beat on L-devices to know about using telnet to > call a remote system. I don't know about Sun uucp specifically, but 4.3 uucp supports tcp connections directly. If two 4.3 machines want to speak to one another, they merely need set up their L.sys files properly. Example time: Machine A has uucp name foo and Internet name edgar.foo.edu Machine B has uucp name bar and Internet name joseph.bar.edu The machine A's L.sys may contain a line like bar Any TCP uucp joseph.bar.edu ogin: uulogin ssword: uupw (Example adapted from an actual L.sys line for uucp-over-tcp.) Sun claims 4.3 networking in Sunix 3.5; if this doesn't work, I guess it's time to beat on them to make good on their claim. (I wouldn't be surprised if it didn't work; lots of other things don't, and I know someone who claims Sun uucp is broken up, down, and sideways even for normal modem connections. We don't run uucp off our Suns; all our uucp is based on our 4.3 machine.) der Mouse uucp: mouse@mcgill-vision.uucp arpa: mouse@larry.mcrcim.mcgill.edu
djn@nmtsun.nmt.edu (David J. Northrop) (03/27/88)
A while back (in the middle of February or so) I asked how to make UUCP work over a TCP connection. >Specifically, how do I get UUCP to run over a TCP/IP and/or TELNET >connection? Do I need new software (we're running SunOS v3.5) or >is there some way I can beat on L-devices to know about using >telnet to call a remote system. >Your help is greatly appreciated. The answer is that on SunOS, you don't. Sun's UUCP, as shipped, does not support UUCP/TCP connections (the 't' protocol). Fortunately, our licenses allowed me to port 4.3BSD UUCP to our Suns. It wasn't too bad, but note: 1). It helps to follow directions. 2). We're an end node (until I get UUPC working at home) and therefore haven't tried any incoming UUCP/TCP stuff. 3). It helps if your feed is running 4.3BSD UUCP. Now that our feed isn't bloated with news waiting for us, I can take the time to bring up NNTP and get news that way (which is what I really want (isn't it?)). Thanks very much to all the kind people who pointed me in the right direction. (It didn't really take all that much time to do the port but there's this little end of winter ritual we perform called midterms...) -- David J. Northrop ...!ihnp4!lanl!unm-la!unmvax!nmtsun!djn NMTech Computer Center ...!cmcl2!/ Campus Station djn@nmtsun.nmt.edu Socorro, NM 87801 (505) 835-5735 --- Message Ends ---
csg@pyramid.pyramid.com (Carl S. Gutekunst) (03/28/88)
>> Specifically, how do I get UUCP to run over a TCP/IP and/or TELNET >> connection? Do I need new software (we're running SunOS v3.5) or is >> there some way I can beat on L-devices to know about using telnet to >> call a remote system. To talk UUCP over TCP/IP, you need a version of UUCP that supports that. Right now, that means Basic Networking Utilities in System VR3, and 4.3BSD UUCP. If your using SunOS, your out of luck unless you have a source license. Note that BNU and 4.3 use incompatible UUCP protocols, and *cannot* talk to each other. On alternative that people have tried is running across a Telnet terminal mux, like a Bridge box. In this case, the computer is talking to Telnet using plain ol' RS-232C. But you get screwed by the special characters that are eaten by Telnet. So that doesn't work either. <csg>
honey@umix.cc.umich.edu (Peter Honeyman) (03/28/88)
Carl S. Gutekunst writes: >BNU and 4.3 use incompatible UUCP protocols, and *cannot* talk to each other. i added 't' support to honey danber (and fed it back to at&t). but i don't know if my mods will ever ship with system v. peter