dpz@pilot.njin.net (David Paul Zimmerman) (04/28/89)
In article <3392@ddsw1.MCS.COM> karl@ddsw1.MCS.COM (Karl Denninger) writes: > Yet another good argument for why rutgers shouldn't reroute mail, or at > least learn how to handle the stuff! Given that this is a loop solely AT > rutgers, I'm not impressed. Bull. The path is ...!rutgers!andromeda!antares!zeus. If you look at the Received: headers, the problem is at andromeda, not rutgers. In fact, rutgers continues to do the right thing throughout the loop - sending it to andromeda - because that's how you get to antares! "Solely AT rutgers"? If you mean "solely within Rutgers University", you don't know much about the internals politics here. Quick lesson: rutgers.edu mail admin != andromeda.rutgers.edu mail admin David # Received: from ANDROMEDA.RUTGERS.EDU by rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.1/3.04) # id AA04755; Thu, 27 Apr 89 04:01:57 EDT # Received: by andromeda.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.0/3.01) # id AA24734; Thu, 27 Apr 89 04:04:07 EDT # Received: from ANDROMEDA.RUTGERS.EDU by rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.1/3.04) # id AA04402; Thu, 27 Apr 89 03:53:47 EDT # Received: by andromeda.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.0/3.01) # id AA23672; Thu, 27 Apr 89 03:55:50 EDT # Received: from oddjob.uchicago.edu by rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.1/3.04) with UUCP # id AA03523; Thu, 27 Apr 89 03:46:07 EDT # Received: by oddjob.uchicago.edu Thu, 27 Apr 89 02:29:56 CDT # Received: by homebru.chi.il.us (smail2.5) # id AA04735; 26 Apr 89 11:49:07 EDT (Wed) # Received: by ddsw1.mcs.com (/\=-/\ Smail3.1.16.1 #16.18) # id <m0fFpaH-0001CaC@ddsw1.mcs.com>; Wed, 26 Apr 89 09:09 CDT # Message-Id: <m0fFpaH-0001CaC@ddsw1.mcs.com> # From: karl@ddsw1.mcs.com (Karl Denninger) # To: zeus@antares.uucp # Date: Wed Apr 26 09:09:48 1989 -- David Paul Zimmerman Rutgers University dpz@pilot.njin.net rutgers!dpz dpzimmerman@zodiac.bitnet
lmb@vicom.COM (Larry Blair) (04/29/89)
In article <Apr.27.22.46.46.1989.1621@pilot.njin.net> dpz@pilot.njin.net (David Paul Zimmerman) writes: =In article <3392@ddsw1.MCS.COM> karl@ddsw1.MCS.COM (Karl Denninger) writes: = => Yet another good argument for why rutgers shouldn't reroute mail, or at => least learn how to handle the stuff! Given that this is a loop solely AT => rutgers, I'm not impressed. = =Bull. The path is ...!rutgers!andromeda!antares!zeus. If you look at the =Received: headers, the problem is at andromeda, not rutgers. In fact, rutgers =continues to do the right thing throughout the loop - sending it to andromeda =- because that's how you get to antares! "Solely AT rutgers"? If you mean ="solely within Rutgers University", you don't know much about the internals =politics here. Quick lesson: BULL! It doesn't matter whether rutgers or andromeda is at fault here, because the real fault lies with rerouting mailers. I'm not going to re-argue this tired line, but there is no good reason to do active rerouting. As far as Rutgers politics, it doesn't matter to the rest of the world. We see a single machine, run by Mel Pleasant, that will take your carefully constructed path and send the mail to Finland. -- Larry Blair ames!vsi1!lmb lmb@vicom.com
lear@NET.BIO.NET (Eliot Lear) (04/29/89)
Larry: We are everywhere. Eliot -- Eliot Lear [lear@net.bio.net]
chip@ateng.ateng.com (Chip Salzenberg) (05/05/89)
According to lear@NET.BIO.NET (Eliot Lear):
>We are everywhere.
Fortunately, you're all surrounded.
--
Chip Salzenberg <chip@ateng.com> or <uunet!ateng!chip>
A T Engineering Me? Speak for my company? Surely you jest!
"It's no good. They're tapping the lines."dpz@pilot.njin.net (David Paul Zimmerman) (05/08/89)
chip@ateng.ateng.com (Chip Salzenberg) rebuts: > According to lear@NET.BIO.NET (Eliot Lear): > >We are everywhere. > > Fortunately, you're all surrounded. That's why we're so effective! :-) -- David Paul Zimmerman Rutgers University dpz@pilot.njin.net rutgers!dpz dpzimmerman@zodiac.bitnet