[comp.mail.uucp] UUCP G protocol and time/file limits

mshiels@tmsoft.uucp (Michael A. Shiels) (02/01/90)

Are there any SAFE responses to a 'S x x x' command which will have the
other system keep the file and try it again when things free up.  I am trying
to implement time and number of file limits by telling the other end not sorry
can't accept/get file BUT I want them to just try the request later.  Most
sources I see will always fail when return with a SNx response.

clewis@eci386.uucp (Chris Lewis) (02/03/90)

In article <isfa379ui@tmsoft.uucp> mshiels@tmsoft.UUCP (Michael A. Shiels) writes:
> Are there any SAFE responses to a 'S x x x' command which will have the
> other system keep the file and try it again when things free up.  I am trying
> to implement time and number of file limits by telling the other end not sorry
> can't accept/get file BUT I want them to just try the request later.  Most
> sources I see will always fail when return with a SNx response.

The version of BSD 4.3 UUCP I have accessible appears to understand SN4 and 
CN4 as "unable to open temporary file", and will not delete it.  I've seen
several UUCP's understand *something* along this line with STST files
referring to "out of space" or some such.

You'll have to experiment with various types of UUCP.

On the other hand, the simplest is to time out or drop the line.  That
will always work though isn't particularly elegant.
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jeh@simpact.com (02/03/90)

In article <isfa379ui@tmsoft.uucp>, mshiels@tmsoft.uucp (Michael A. Shiels) writes:
> Are there any SAFE responses to a 'S x x x' command which will have the
> other system keep the file and try it again when things free up....

I'd like to know this too.  And, if there isn't such a response, there ought to
be!  Can we assign one?  

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jbrown@herron.uucp (Jordan Brown) (02/06/90)

mshiels@tmsoft.uucp (Michael A. Shiels) writes:
> Are there any SAFE responses to a 'S x x x' command which will have the
> other system keep the file and try it again when things free up.

There's always hanging up the phone...

I'd like to know the answer too.  I suspect that it is "no", partly
because the "reason codes" are not an original feature and so there
are implementations that don't look at them.

(Seriously, hanging up the phone *will* work, as long as you weren't
interested in handling any other requests from that host until this
one is OK...)
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Jordan Brown
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jbrown@herron.uucp (Jordan Brown) (02/06/90)

jeh@simpact.com writes:
> mshiels@tmsoft.uucp (Michael A. Shiels) writes:
> > Are there any SAFE responses to a 'S x x x' command which will have the
> > other system keep the file and try it again when things free up....

> I'd like to know this too.  And, if there isn't such a response, there
> ought to be!  Can we assign one?  

We can assign one all we like.  Changing the N thousand copies of uucico
out there to understand the new code is the hard part.
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Jordan Brown
jbrown@jato.jpl.nasa.gov

jeh@simpact.com (02/07/90)

In article <248@herron.uucp>, jbrown@herron.uucp (Jordan Brown) writes:
> jeh@simpact.com writes:
>> mshiels@tmsoft.uucp (Michael A. Shiels) writes:
>> > Are there any SAFE responses to a 'S x x x' command which will have the
>> > other system keep the file and try it again when things free up....
> 
>> I'd like to know this too.  And, if there isn't such a response, there
>> ought to be!  Can we assign one?  
> 
> We can assign one all we like.  Changing the N thousand copies of uucico
> out there to understand the new code is the hard part.

I'd guessed that, actually... :-)

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