fitz@wang.com (Tom Fitzgerald) (06/30/90)
The discussion about getting everyone out of the UUCP zone is all totally accurate - things would work much better if everyone had a registered domain. But getting a domain requires getting a forwarder, which isn't easy, or even possible for a lot of people. Even in Eastern MA (a pretty Internet-rich area) the UUCP sites vastly outnumber the forwarders. Not many Internet sites, especially commercial ones, can afford to dedicated resources and modem time to feeding mail to people's PCs. I'd expect that in places like Vermont and Maine, with few Internet nodes (if any), access would be much worse, and there are a few dozen UUCP sites out there. Some nudging could probably get well over half of the currently domainless UUCP sites registered, because they're in a major city or are willing to spend the $$$ for long distance rates. But the last few isolated nodes will still be in the UUCP zone for a while yet. --- Tom Fitzgerald Wang Labs fitz@wang.com 1-508-967-5278 Lowell MA, USA ...!uunet!wang!fitz
Anselmo-Ed@cs.yale.edu (Ed Anselmo) (07/03/90)
>>>>> On 29 Jun 90 23:07:00 GMT, fitz@wang.com (Tom Fitzgerald) said:
Tom> Even in Eastern MA (a pretty Internet-rich area) the UUCP sites
Tom> vastly outnumber the forwarders. Not many Internet sites,
Tom> especially commercial ones, can afford to dedicated resources and
Tom> modem time to feeding mail to people's PCs. I'd expect that in
Tom> places like Vermont and Maine, with few Internet nodes (if any),
Tom> access would be much worse, and there are a few dozen UUCP sites
Tom> out there.
It doesn't require a lot resources from the Internet site -- in a
previous life, my site acted as forwarder for about a dozen sites (in
the mi.us and mi.org domains). The Internet connection was a flakey
SLIP line to Merit. There was one cheesy 2400 baud modem. This all
happened within about 8 months or so of my site getting connected up
to the Internet (proving that even a part-time neophyte Internet
sysadmin can do it). Basically, I did it so that I could learn more
about sendmail.
Tom> Some nudging could probably get well over half of the currently
Tom> domainless UUCP sites registered, because they're in a major city
Tom> or are willing to spend the $$$ for long distance rates. But the
Tom> last few isolated nodes will still be in the UUCP zone for a
Tom> while yet.
Courtesy of Merit, an annex terminal server, and a horrendous UUCP
chat script, I MX-ed for clmqt.marquette.mi.us from Ann Arbor for the
price of a local call (Marquette is about a billion miles from Ann
Arbor.... :-). Throughput sucked, but the mail got delivered.
Steve Simmons (scs@iti.org) could probably tell you more about the
Michigan setup.
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Ed Anselmo anselmo-ed@cs.yale.edu {harvard,decvax}!yale!anselmo-ed