[comp.mail.uucp] Smail 3.? question

fred@seer.UUCP (Glen Collins) (12/26/90)

Hello all!

		I have 2 questions about smail 3.?

#1: 	Is the "Return-Path" currently being used with the new smail?
	And if so, does smail use that return path to send the mail or
	whatever back to that address?

#2:	If so, when is it placed within the message and who places it
	within the message. The local system or the receiving system.
 
Thanks...
 
-Glen Collins (uunet!{unisoft,seeker}!seer!fred)

Merry Christmas!!!

larry@nstar.rn.com (Larry Snyder) (01/09/91)

re-routing of all inbound mail -

is their an option in smail3 to handle the re-routing off all
traffic regardless of the path specified?

nstar.rn.com's paths database uses SMTP to route mail where
possible - instead of the traditional bangpaths - which results
in fewer hops - and I would like to force all inbound mail to
be rerouted based on nstar.rn.com's paths database --

-- 
   Larry Snyder, NSTAR Public Access Unix 219-289-0282 (HST/PEP/V.32/v.42bis)
                        regional UUCP mapping coordinator 
  {larry@nstar.rn.com, ..!uunet!nstar!larry, larry%nstar@iuvax.cs.indiana.edu}

cks@hawkwind.utcs.toronto.edu (Chris Siebenmann) (01/12/91)

larry@nstar.rn.com (Larry Snyder) writes:
...
| nstar.rn.com's paths database uses SMTP to route mail where
| possible - instead of the traditional bangpaths - which results
| in fewer hops - and I would like to force all inbound mail to
| be rerouted based on nstar.rn.com's paths database --

 This comes up periodically, and I would like to drop in a general
note about people who try to do uucp->Internet->somewhere mail. Unless
the link you are using is either advertised or you have talked to the
system administrator/postmaster in question, this is both rude and not
guaranteed to work -- and if it breaks, I doubt the postmaster in
question will be particularly sympathetic.

 In the past, people have attempted to route mail this way
(uucp->Internet->uucp, in fact) through a local machine that's on both
networks and had problems. When they asked or complained about them I
told them that while we knew about the problem and I expected it would
get solved sometime, but that it was not high on our list of
priorities because they were exploiting information not in the UUCP
maps.

--
"Anyone forging articles should be writing news software instead,
 if you get the headers right you're ahead of some implementations.
 Try writing a gateway, that'll test your skills."	- Ed Vielmetti
cks@hawkwind.utcs.toronto.edu	           ...!{utgpu,utzoo,watmath}!utgpu!cks

les@chinet.chi.il.us (Leslie Mikesell) (01/14/91)

In article <1991Jan08.173128.29835@nstar.rn.com> larry@nstar.rn.com (Larry Snyder) writes:
>is their an option in smail3 to handle the re-routing off all
>traffic regardless of the path specified?

Smail3 handles routing by applying the definitions in the "routers" file
in the order in which they appear. 

>nstar.rn.com's paths database uses SMTP to route mail where
>possible - instead of the traditional bangpaths - which results
>in fewer hops - and I would like to force all inbound mail to
>be rerouted based on nstar.rn.com's paths database --

The problem here is that you don't know what mail is "inbound" until
after it is routed...  However, I suspect that what you want to do
is to duplicate the "pathalias" router but specify a different "paths"
file which will contain what you consider "inbound" addresses (i.e.
machines in your domain), and put this entry first in the routers file.
If you want to deliver to these hosts via SMTP or a mix of SMTP and
uucp, then remove the transport attribute for the router and use a
"methods" file instead.

Les Mikesell
  les@chinet.chi.il.us