skl@van-bc.UUCP (Samuel Lam) (12/27/88)
In article <2516@ddsw1.MCS.COM>, bhv@ddsw1.UUCP (Bronis Vidugiris) wrote: ) I would like to see the direction of 'new' bbs's go not twoards the server ) client model so much as twoards a standard interchange format. This means ) that the user could use his 'favorite' bbs system at home, with windows, ) mice, or whatever - and his favorite full screen local text editor - ) all offline. Then, while online, messages to sent could be sent to the ) host system, and new messages (possibly with some 'standardized' approval ) system based on length, author, etc) could be downloaded. Hey, that's a good idea. As a matter of fact, that's also the vision that started the UUPC efforts about two years ago. (The only problem we have with UUPC is the lack of time to work on it.) ) I don't have any real concrete proposals - except that if something based ) on the standard usenet news format (...) could be made to work, it might ) be the best bet. Mainly because it is wide use already, and it seems to ) be pretty flexible (...). That's part of what UUPC was trying to provide -- a reliable and automated way to move spool files between Unix systems (the services hosts) and the micros's (the user hosts). Once the spool files containing news and mail get to your end, all sort of local programs can then be used to process them and deal with the material within. (Future versions of UUPC will concentrate on being a "transport" mechanism which applications on top of it can use, and leave the job of providing these "applications", like mail and news, to others who would like to work on them.) ) A 'server' approach might be nice to be able to do something in the foreground ) while stuff is downloading in the background. However, if the download stuff ) can be automated - requiring no human intervention - (...), I think it would > be both technically simpler, and better (...). ) ) This is especially true with phone rates going up and local call areas going ) down, (as is happening here in Chicago, at least). Right on. It also elminates the need for a second phone line just for the computer, since most of the time when you are dealing with the news/mail you wouldn't even be on line anyways. -- Samuel Lam {alberta,watmath,uw-beaver,cs.ubc.ca}!ubc-cs!van-bc!skl
aviz@lanai.cs.ucla.edu (03/05/89)
What is UUPC? I have(recently) started using UUCP quite extensively. I was wondering if someone might clarify this for me. Thanks..
aviz@oahu.cs.ucla.edu (03/05/89)
Where can I get a copy of UUPC(for a PC/XT running MSDOS)? And after I have it, how do I become hooked in to the net? Thanks...
thomas@mvac.UUCP (Thomas Lapp) (03/22/89)
My sincere apologies for my error. I in no way wished to mis-state the
position of UUPC as a program. Please see Samual Lam's earlier posting
regarding the distribution of UUPC.
I was mistaken in my assumption that UUPC was freeware. Being a major
(the?) author of the IBM-PC version, he should know.
- tom
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-------------------------------------------------------------------------------aviz@lanai.cs.ucla.edu (03/23/89)
A couple of questions about UUPC.. 1) What FTP sites is it available from? I have heard that I could get it from simtel20.arpa, but i get a connect: connection refused Also, uunet.UU.NET, may have it, and if it does, where is it? 2) Does anyone know about sites that I could connect to here(in the LA area)? Or is it possible to get hooke up to UCLA or something? 3) If I get UUPC, can I have a USENET newsfeed? If so, how? Reply via mail, please.. ---------------------------------------------------------- BITNET: inq1axa@uclamvs.BITNET also internet, but please send it to the BITNET account, NOT the internet one.. Please>. Aghh!!! ----------------------------------------------------------
don@delta.uucp (Donald K. Irmiger) (02/23/90)
Does anyone have any experience in getting UUPC to work with an internal modem on COM3? Donald K. Irmiger III UUCP: uunet!delta!don Data Systems Coordinator Altos 2086/Xenix 3.4b Michiana Rehabilitation Institute's Data Systems Center
fehr@ms.uky.edu (Robert Fehr) (07/16/90)
My problem involves that noble enterprise UUPC. We have been
running that program at a large number of sites (120+) and for
the most part have enjoyed a great success. However, here in
Kentucky we are running over what can only be descibed as funky
wires. Other packages (like KERMIT or PROCOMM) do not have as
much of a problem. Has any one else tinkered with or substituted
another COMM black box? Or is the distributed COMM.ASM about as
robust as could be found? Comments or help will be appreciated.
--
jeff davis davis@keats.ca.uky.edu
part of the world of American bad actors who, when the chips are down, go to
Florida... Ninety-Two in the Shade by Thomas McGuanehelp@kendra.kew.com (Drew Derbyshire - UUPC/extended Help Desk) (07/20/90)
From article <15644@s.ms.uky.edu>, by fehr@ms.uky.edu (Robert Fehr): > However, here in > Kentucky we are running over what can only be descibed as funky > wires. Other packages (like KERMIT or PROCOMM) do not have as > much of a problem. Has any one else tinkered with or substituted > another COMM black box? Or is the distributed COMM.ASM about as > robust as could be found? Comments or help will be appreciated. > -- > jeff davis davis@keats.ca.uky.edu > part of the world of American bad actors who, when the chips are down, go to > Florida... Ninety-Two in the Shade by Thomas McGuane Changing COMM won't help the data; you might wish to try MNP (tm) error correcting modems. The next release of UUPC/extended should include a slightly brighter error counting scheme to abort only after 20 consecutive errors rather than 20 errors overall; I should, however, note, that I haven't actually written this fix ... yet. THis may help you over the bad phone lines. Drew Derbyshire Internet: help@kendra.kew.com Snail mail: 108 Decatur St, Apt 9 Voice: 617-641-3739 Arlington, MA 02174
fehr@ms.uky.edu (Robert Fehr) (07/31/90)
While we're on the subject of UUPC...
One of the difficulties with 1.06 apparently lay in its tendency to
hang at odd moments during transfer. Something about a 0 length packet etc.
We have a number of our sites who have upgraded to 1.07j and are
proceeding swimmingly. Others have had to reinstall 1.06 since the program
balks even during the dial-up....or during the original synchronization
sequences immediately after logging on...or somewhere else entirely.
Is there a way to patch 1.06 with the "fix" for the 0 length packet.
Or am I really just confusing issues here? As a virtual layman regarding
these things, I feel like I'm pointing to an alternator and calling it
the vermifuge.
Many thanks for your patience and comments.
--
jeff davis davis@keats.ca.uky.edu
part of the world of American bad actors who, when the chips are down, go to
Florida... Ninety-Two in the Shade by Thomas McGuanebeni@tglobe2.tollpost-globe (Beni Ruef) (05/07/91)
We're looking for a cheap/free UUCP implementation running under Messy DOS. We know about UUPC (well, we heard about it :-) and are wondering a) about people's experiences with it and b) where to get it EASILY (no, we don't have FTP) Thanks & Cheers -Beni P.S. What happened with fsuucp ? -- Beni Ruef Systems Department Tollpost-Globe AS N-6301 Aandalsnes/Norway E-mail: beni@tglobe2.UUCP FAX: +47 72 22 161 Voice mail: +47 72 21 211 "UNIX is the answer - what was the question ?"
nelson@sun.soe.clarkson.edu (Russ Nelson) (05/08/91)
In article <302@tglobe2.tollpost-globe> beni@tglobe2.tollpost-globe (Beni Ruef) writes:
We're looking for a cheap/free UUCP implementation running under Messy DOS.
We know about UUPC (well, we heard about it :-) and are wondering
b) where to get it EASILY (no, we don't have FTP)
Grape.ecs.clarkson.edu is the canonical distribution point. And, it's callable
by modem: (315)268-6667. Look in pub/msdos/uupc.
--
--russ <nelson@clutx.clarkson.edu> I'm proud to be a humble Quaker.
It's better to get mugged than to live a life of fear -- Freeman Dyson
I joined the League for Programming Freedom, and I hope you'll join too.chris@zeus.calpoly.edu (The Squire, Phish) (05/08/91)
beni@tglobe2.UUCP (Beni Ruef) recently informed us: > >P.S. What happened with fsuucp ? The mother of all bugs... (Yeah, I hate that phrase, too :-)) Actually, there *is* a bug in the uucico programme that isn't getting as much time as it should lately because of school (which is why fsuucp is shareware and not commercial. i can't devote the time to it and the support to it that i'd like to). I'm pretty confident that i've fixed it, though, and am just being double-sure before releasing it. >"UNIX is the answer - what was the question ?" What is the airspeed velocity of a coconut... no, wait, that's something else. -- ++Christopher(The Squire, Phish); | Home of the 16K .plan chris@hypnos.calpoly.edu (129.65.60.35) | file. Finger at your own -----------------------------------------------------| risk. AIX System Administrator, Cal Poly, San Luis Obispo. | "| more" recommended.
cliff@demon.co.uk (Cliff Stanford) (05/15/91)
In article <302@tglobe2.tollpost-globe> beni@tglobe2.UUCP (Beni Ruef) writes: >We're looking for a cheap/free UUCP implementation running under Messy DOS. >We know about UUPC (well, we heard about it :-) and are wondering > >a) about people's experiences with it Wonderful ... couldn't live without it. > and >b) where to get it EASILY (no, we don't have FTP) Send mail to help@kendra.kew.com and ask for the "HOWTOGET.IT" file. Regards, Cliff. -- Cliff Stanford Email: cliff@demon.co.uk (Work) Demon Systems Limited cms@demon.co.uk (Home) 42 Hendon Lane Phone: 081-349 0063 (Office) London N3 1TT England 0860 375870 (Mobile)