jiro@shaman.com (Jiro Nakamura) (05/16/91)
Hiya - I was wondering if anyone could offer me any advice. I'm sysadmin, postmaster, and everything else for our site, shaman, which is registered as shaman.com (SHAMAN-DOM) in the NIC maps and as <shaman> in the uucp maps. There happens to be another UUCP site <shaman>, however, which is unregistered. The person doesn't have a domain name because he's two hops down a UUCP line, ie. he's <foo!shaman!username@bar.com> or <bar!foo!shaman!username> for you UUCP folk. He isn't real careful sometimes, and I just recently got a whole load of BITFTP junk from princeton.edu that the guy had requested, but some mailer had misdirected to our <shaman> site rather than his. I've been trying to tell him that his mail is coming to our site by mistake (it bounces to postmaster-me). But he isn't being very responsive. Basically his attitude is "it's your problem." Well, it is my problem if he is sending large BITFTP's to my site by mistake and I'm paying UUNET the equivalent of $3 a megabyte. What can I do? Should I send mail to <root@foo> to tell him to convince the other shaman to change his UUCP name to something that doesn't conflict? That would make me a pretty bad net.citizen and world.citizen. But at the same time, I don't like getting mail that ain't intended for me. Any advice would be helpful. Thanks! - Jiro Nakamura jiro@shaman.com -- Jiro Nakamura jiro@shaman.com Shaman Consulting (607) 253-0687 VOICE "Bring your dead, dying shamans here!" (607) 253-7809 FAX/Modem
jiro@shaman.com (Jiro Nakamura) (05/21/91)
A week or so ago, I posted a request to this newsgroup. I was having problems with a site that (illegally) had the same UUCP name as I, even though my site was registered. As a result, I was getting his sites e-mail occasionally when smart-mailers would out-guess his routing. About ten or so people replied. Many, many thanks to you. I've named you at the end of this article. Here's the summary. Basically the course of action recommended by all was about the same: 1) Contact him and tell him to change his name. My site was registered correctly, thus it is his responsibility to change it and fix things, not mine. 2) Contact his feed site and tell them to convice him to change his name. I will try to convice either or both of the sysadmins to fix things. I'm sure he won't relish giving up his site name, but ....... Some other reponses were: 1) Send him my UUNET bill. 2) Since I have Shaman.com registered, then I should relinquish my claim on the UUCP name shaman. I should change my UUCP name to something computer generated, <s34ma99h.uucp> for example, send in a new map entry and NIC MX forwarding widget. Then everything would be dandy. 3) Another strong arm tactic: Get a friend on the net to send me the sources to EMACS's "accidentally" to the other shaman. 4) Contact the sites that are overriding the UUCP bang addresses (i.e., someone's site is changing foo!shaman!user@bar.com to user!shaman.uucp, which is the source of all this mess). 5) Let the UUCP map person know about the problem. Problems: 1) Who is the map person? 2) What good would that do? The problem is that the maps work fine, mail addressed to UUCP site <shaman> is getting there, to my site. What I think I will do is get hold of his feeder and him at the same time and try to convince him to change his name. This seems the most rational and least harmful solution. Again, many many thanks to all those who sent me suggestions. I deeply appreciate this. I received e-mail from: Brendan Kehoe Michael Richardson Paul Ebersman Tim Endres Brian Kantor Bill Fenner Paul Revell Bob Weissman Dave Platt John Harkin Chris Daves - Jiro Nakamura jiro@shaman.com d -- Jiro Nakamura jiro@shaman.com Shaman Consulting (607) 253-0687 VOICE "Bring your dead, dying shamans here!" (607) 253-7809 FAX/Modem