orsay@mtunf.UUCP (Joel Ratsaby) (11/13/86)
*** REPLACE THIS LINE WITH YOUR MESSAGE *** I'm looking for machine addresses that can act as gateways from USENET to BITNET.specifically I'm on the machine: mtunf which is on USENET ,and I want to reach a machine on BITNET : CUNY VM ,and BROWN.COG . appreciate your help.
ehrlich@psuvax1.UUCP (Dan Ehrlich) (11/20/86)
The machine psuvax1 is on both USENET and BITNET. It can be used as a gateway as follows: To send from USENET to BITNET use an address like: ...!psuvax1!host.BITNET!usename To send from BITNET to USENET something like the following might work: NOTE username%host.uucp at psuvax1 There is no warranty expressed or implied for the BITNET to USENET address. It would appear that some BITNET mailers have a warped sense of what a valid address is and what is allowed to appear in a mail header. --Daniel Ehrlich =============================================================================== CSNET: ehrlich@penn-state.csnet USPS: The Pennsylvania State University INTERNET: ehrlich@psuvax1.psu.edu Department of Computer Science UUCP: ...!ihnp4!psuvax1!ehrlich 333 Whitmore Laboratory BITNET: ehrlich@psuvax1.bitnet University Park, PA 16802 BELL: (814) 863-1142 "The sky is blue so we know where to stop mowing." Judge Harold T. Stone Disclaimer: The opinions expressed herein are my own and do not reflect the opinions or policies of The Pennsylvania State University or the Department of Computer Science. ===============================================================================
scott@utcs.UUCP (11/22/86)
In article <2338@psuvax1.UUCP> ehrlich@psuvax1.UUCP (Dan Ehrlich) writes: > >The machine psuvax1 is on both USENET and BITNET. It can be used as a gateway >as follows: > >To send from USENET to BITNET use an address like: > > ...!psuvax1!host.BITNET!usename > >To send from BITNET to USENET something like the following might work: > > NOTE username%host.uucp at psuvax1 > >There is no warranty expressed or implied for the BITNET to USENET address. >It would appear that some BITNET mailers have a warped sense of what a valid >address is and what is allowed to appear in a mail header. You are quite right there. NOTE is an ibm command and will not accept username%host.uucp at psuvax1 because username%host.uucp will almost for sure be greater than 8 characters which is the longest userid that exists on any machine (at least to the thinking of ibm who think they ARE everybody) If you don't have a mailer on your bitnet site you have to manually put BSMTP headers (I think that stands for Batch Simple Mail Transfer Protocol) on your mail and PUNCH it to MAILER at PSUVAX1. There are also execs to do this for you (at least on IBM machines). I have one called CROSSNET EXEC that I got from somewhere or other but I think it is only good for ARPA CSNET MAILNET CCNET and MFENET addresses (ie it will send to the gateways for those - not psuvax1) however it can probably be converted to uucp addresses easily... (I havent bothered since we have a mailer) If anyone wants this I can send it to them or they can get it off of one of the servers on bitnet (NETSERV?)... maybe the latest version of crossnetexec handles uucp - i dont know... At least PSUVAX1 isn't as picky about the headers as WISCVM.... :-) scott -- ...{utzoo, decvax, ihnp4, cbosgd, utcsri, mnetor}!utcs!scott scott%utcs.toronto.edu@csnet-relay.arpa scott@utoronto.bitnet scott@utcs.utoronto.bitnet Disclaimer: The above is not actually the opinion of anyone at all but especially not the administration or staff of this institution.
perry@vu-vlsi.UUCP (11/22/86)
In article <2338@psuvax1.UUCP>, ehrlich@psuvax1.UUCP (Dan Ehrlich) writes: > .. > To send from USENET to BITNET use an address like: > > ...!psuvax1!host.BITNET!usename We are also a gateway to bitnet now, ...!vu-vlsi!host.bitnet!username but I have not been able to get from bitnet to here regardless of how many ""'s I use in vms mail (e.g. To: bitnet%"uucp%vu-vlsi!perry"@vuvaxcom) > There is no warranty expressed or implied for the BITNET to USENET address. You can say that again!
zben@umd5 (Ben Cranston) (11/25/86)
> The machine psuvax1 is on both USENET and BITNET. It can be used as a > gateway as follows: ... > It would appear that some BITNET mailers have a warped sense of what a > valid address is and what is allowed to appear in a mail header. Hear hear. I've been operating an Internet to BitNet gateway since 1984, and I have quite a mugbook of some of the utter trash various BitNet mailers seem to think is valid. However, I do have a comment on the PSUVAX1 gateway. We were recently out of touch with our usual Internet to UUCP gateway (due to unrelated problems) so I took the opportunity to try using PSUVAX1 for some of my personal mail. I got some advisories back. None had any kind of "To:" field, a field required by RFC822 and used by my software to attempt to recover from BitNet's stupidity in truncating out-of-band addresses to eight characters. Needless to say my software didn't appreciate the lack of "To:" fields, and proceeded to break. Fortunately I am notified of mail system glitches and was appropriately chagrined to find said glitches traceable to mine own hand... Regardless of the lack of order and standardization on BitNet I don't think it wise for you to criticize while your own software is part of the problem. Apologies in advance to anyone this might offend. --------------- From: uucp@ihnp4.UUCP Received: by psuvax1.UUCP (4.12/4.7) id AA01844; Tue, 4 Nov 86 19:34:47 est Date: Tue, 4 Nov 86 19:34:47 est Received: by ihnp4.ATT.COM id AA05988; 4 Nov 86 13:13:56 CST (Tue) Subject: Warning from uucp Apparently-To: psuvax1!UMD2.BITNET!ZBEN (Message text.) PSUVAX1 should have put a "To: ZBEN@UMD2" header field in. UMD2 would have done the same for PSUVAX1 :-) -- umd5.UUCP <= {seismo!umcp-cs,ihnp4!rlgvax}!cvl!umd5!zben Ben Cranston zben @ umd2.UMD.EDU Kingdom of Merryland Sperrows 1100/92 umd2.BITNET "via HASP with RSCS"
henry@garp.mit.edu (Henry Mensch) (11/25/86)
ehrlich@psuvax1.UUCP (Dan Ehrlich) wrote: -> ->The machine psuvax1 is on both USENET and BITNET. It can be used as a gateway ->as follows: -> ->To send from BITNET to USENET something like the following might work: -> -> NOTE username%host.uucp at psuvax1 This will never work. NOTE (on VM/CMS systems only) causes a file to be sent in NETDATA format. Unless psuvax1 has recently learned about how to deal with NETDATA, your message is likely to get trashed. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Henry Mensch / <henry@garp.mit.edu> / ...!mit-eddie!garp!henry