[comp.mail.headers] Timezones

wdr@cstowe.csoft.co.nz (Bill) (02/24/88)

Hi there Netlanders,

Time for a little summary of the replies I got about timezones:

Now I know all about timezones :-).
  
I have discovered that there is no such thing as GMT time anymore. It
has become Universal Time (UT) or Universal Coordinated Time (UCT)
depending on who sent the reply.  The appropriate references are ANSI
Standard X3.51-1975 and ISO 4031, neither of which I have not got hold
of (bit difficult out here) so I can't exactly say which of UT or UCT
is the `correct' one.


It turns out that Unix is backwards with respect to RFC822 (ANSI/ISO
etc) time. Mail headers should have +nnnn if the sending site is East
of Greenwich.  The Unix timezone offset requires the offset to
be -nnnn.

All I need to do now is to hack about with smail to get it to shove
the appropriate stuff on our mail headers, yeeHarr :->.

See Y'all Later, and Thanx for the memories.

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rancke@diku.dk (Hans Rancke-Madsen.) (02/29/88)

In article <418@cstowe.csoft.co.nz> wdr@cstowe.csoft.co.nz (Bill) writes:

>I have discovered that there is no such thing as GMT time anymore.

Although GMT may not be "official" any more, I maintain that as
long as someone uses the expression, and other persons still
understand it, then the concept still exists.

(Denmark went metric a *loooong* time ago, but you can still
buy butter by the pound here).

   Hans Rancke, University of Copenhagen
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keld@diku.dk (Keld J|rn Simonsen) (02/29/88)

I think the new term for GMT is UTC - Universal Time Coordinated,
not UCT. It is going to be incorporated in the new ISO C standard
instead of the GMT.

kannan@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu (Kannan Varadhan) (03/02/88)

rancke@diku.dk (Hans Rancke-Madsen.) writes:
>In article <418@cstowe.csoft.co.nz> wdr@cstowe.csoft.co.nz (Bill) writes:
>
>>I have discovered that there is no such thing as GMT time anymore.
>
>Although GMT may not be "official" any more, I maintain that as
>long as someone uses the expression, and other persons still
>understand it, then the concept still exists.
>

Almost all short-wave radio stations (with the notable exception of the
BBC ) call it the UTC.  I would regard them as the primary users of the
term, and there word would lend it the required respectability :-!

KANNAN

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gwyn@brl-smoke.ARPA (Doug Gwyn ) (03/02/88)

In article <3692@diku.dk> keld@diku.dk (Keld J|rn Simonsen) writes:
>I think the new term for GMT is UTC - Universal Time Coordinated,
>not UCT.

UTC is the symbol but Coordinated Universal Time is the English name.

leem@jplpro.JPL.NASA.GOV (Lee Mellinger) (03/04/88)

In article <7393@brl-smoke.ARPA> gwyn@brl.arpa (Doug Gwyn (VLD/VMB) <gwyn>) writes:
:In article <3692@diku.dk> keld@diku.dk (Keld J|rn Simonsen) writes:
:>I think the new term for GMT is UTC - Universal Time Coordinated,
:>not UCT.
:
:UTC is the symbol but Coordinated Universal Time is the English name.

The BIH, in english the International Bureau of Time is headquartered in
Paris, France more than ten years ago changed the ordinary time standard
from GMT to UTC, as well as some of technical specifications as to how
it is calculated.  There are several time standards, UTC, UT1 and UT2 and others
depending on how they are measured.

Lee

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edw@pinot.zehntel.com (Ed Wright) (03/16/88)

In article <7516@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu> kannan@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu (Kannan Varadhan) writes:
>rancke@diku.dk (Hans Rancke-Madsen.) writes:
>>In article <418@cstowe.csoft.co.nz> wdr@cstowe.csoft.co.nz (Bill) writes:
>>>I have discovered that there is no such thing as GMT time anymore.
>Almost all short-wave radio stations (with the notable exception of the
>BBC ) call it the UTC.  I would regard them as the primary users of the
>term, and there word would lend it the required respectability :-!

 for what its worth...
most of them if not say "Universal Coordinated Time"
UTC?  UCT ? 
its 17:00 somewhere i believe i'll have another beer


Ed Wright
KA9AHQ

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>>>>>>>>   sun--->----zehntel !edw>/dev/null :-) Now
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