[comp.mail.headers] Time-zone abbreviations in international mail

Horne-Scott@cs.yale.edu (Scott Horne) (06/09/89)

I've established an e-mail connexion with someone in Beijing.  I recently
posted some news he sent me to `soc.culture.china', to which I often submit
articles.  The contact in Beijing asked me not to reveal his name or address;
I agreed to this.

Now some people in that newsgroup are accusing me of faking the mail just
because I won't identify the author.  I yielded more than I wanted to by
posting the header without the paths and names.

This still didn't convince some people; in fact, one person has called me a
liar and a forger!  (See his article in that group.)  His reason?  According
to him, times on mail from Asia and Australia are given in Greenwich Mean Time,
and my header contains things like `HKT' (``Hong Kong Time'') and `JST'
(``Japan summer time'').

I know I'm right on this, for I *did* receive that mail from Beijing.  But
would someone please tell him (preferably by posting to `soc.culture.china'
or sending me mail, a summary of which I'll post there) that my header is
genuine (or ``could be'', for cynics like him)?

Advance thanks.

					--Scott

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jbuck@epimass.EPI.COM (Joe Buck) (06/11/89)

In article <63066@yale-celray.yale.UUCP> Horne-Scott@cs.yale.edu (Scott Horne) writes:
>I've established an e-mail connexion with someone in Beijing.  I recently
>posted some news he sent me to `soc.culture.china', to which I often submit
>articles.  The contact in Beijing asked me not to reveal his name or address;
>I agreed to this.
>
>Now some people in that newsgroup are accusing me of faking the mail just
>because I won't identify the author.  I yielded more than I wanted to by
>posting the header without the paths and names.
>
>This still didn't convince some people; in fact, one person has called me a
>liar and a forger!  (See his article in that group.)  His reason?  According
>to him, times on mail from Asia and Australia are given in Greenwich Mean
> Time,
>and my header contains things like `HKT' (``Hong Kong Time'') and `JST'
>(``Japan summer time'').

The person who made this accusation against you is confused about the
difference between news (netnews) and mail.  The example he gave about
"what headers look like" showed headers from a news article, not from
a mail message.  That is, it had a "Newsgroups:" line, no "Received"
headers, and gave a time in GMT.

On the other hand, the headers you showed don't prove that much,
though, trusting person that I am, I don't see why I shouldn't believe you.
They look like they may have come from a real message.

By the way, I'm curious.  Just what did you do to stir up such hate
against you?  Seems like the people accusing you of things only need
to see your name to start frothing at the mouth.  Are you really the
evil agent of international communism that they say you are?  :-)


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