gaynor@topaz.rutgers.edu (Silver) (07/03/87)
There are a couple of things about the manual-entry function that I
would change if I had a say...
1. Generate the output to a buffer named
'*' <topic> [ '.' <section> ] '-manual*'
because at the time that you're reading a man page, you'll need to
look at a couple of others. I think this falls in line with the
potato-chip phenomenah - betcha can't read just one!
2. Run this thing in the background, in a fashion similar to the
compile function. It just takes a while to run this baby
sometimes...
name: Andy Gaynor (Silver)
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icbm: 40 34 N / 74 45 Wdrw@cullvax.UUCP (Dale Worley) (07/06/87)
While we're at it, how about fixing cleaning: Remove _^H (or ^H_, or whatever) Remove .^H. (when the first and 3rd chars are the same, is used for "boldface", or something) Change |^H^ to ^ (some sort of fake uparrow) Actually, somebody should check how man *really* emits these things first! Dale -- Dale Worley Cullinet Software ARPA: cullvax!drw@eddie.mit.edu UUCP: ...!seismo!harvard!mit-eddie!cullvax!drw
mike@turing.unm.edu (Michael I. Bushnell) (07/06/87)
In article <13143@topaz.rutgers.edu> gaynor@topaz.rutgers.edu (Silver) writes: > >There are a couple of things about the manual-entry function that I >would change if I had a say... > Add: Use the rman protocol. In fact, add compile time options (or maybe runtime) to select the use of rman protocol, nntp, etc. It sure would be nice to use nifty emacs features like these, but on a machine without local manuals and news, I have to resort to rn and man. Michael I. Bushnell a/k/a Bach II mike@turing.UNM.EDU --- I'm reporting for duty as a modern person. I want to do the Latin Hustle now! -- Zippy the Pinhead
mayer@hplabsc.UUCP (07/07/87)
I use rman with manual-entry. manual-entry tries to look at the empty man/cat directories on my workstation, doesn't find anything, and then invokes rman. Add the following form to your .emacs file (or put it in site-init.el and make temacs redump). (setq manual-program "/usr/local/bin/rman") -- Niels.
john@xanth.UUCP (07/08/87)
In article <1341@cullvax.UUCP>, drw@cullvax.UUCP (Dale Worley) writes: > Remove _^H (or ^H_, or whatever) > Remove .^H. (when the first and 3rd chars are the same, is > used for "boldface", or something) > Change |^H^ to ^ (some sort of fake uparrow) > > Actually, somebody should check how man *really* emits these things > first! Simple; the man pages are processed by nroff, which uses these for underlining, boldface, and the uparrow character, as you guessed. Other combinations include o^H+ for a bullet, s^HS for a section symbol, etc. nroff, you see, tries to do its best to be able to be used with troff input, so that 1) you can use it for draft copies of your troff document, and 2) if you don't have any high-quality output device, you can still nroff and read someone else's troff document. more takes the _^Hc and uses underline (if available) or standout mode to display the character(s)! -- John Owens Old Dominion University - Norfolk, Virginia, USA john@ODU.EDU old arpa: john%odu.edu@RELAY.CS.NET +1 804 440 4529 old uucp: {seismo,harvard,sun,hoptoad}!xanth!john
ron@topaz.rutgers.edu.UUCP (07/08/87)
Most modern day man programs transmit the underscores first and only uses one backspace at a time (Version 6 was the notable exception). Therefore all one need do is the emacs equivelent of the real editor command g/.^H/s///g
nate@cpocd2.UUCP (Nate Hess) (07/09/87)
In article <13217@topaz.rutgers.edu> ron@topaz.rutgers.edu (Ron Natalie) writes: >Therefore all one need do is the emacs equivelent of the real editor >command > g/.^H/s///g You mean ex is a "real editor"?!? 'Tis news to me... :-)# --Nate Hess -- "How did you get your mind to tilt like your hat?" ...!{decwrl|hplabs!oliveb|pur-ee|qantel|amd}!intelca!mipos3!cpocd2!nate <domainish> : nate@cpocd2.intel.com ATT : (602) 961-2037
allbery@ncoast.UUCP (Brandon Allbery) (07/11/87)
As quoted from <1341@cullvax.UUCP> by drw@cullvax.UUCP (Dale Worley): +--------------- | While we're at it, how about fixing cleaning: | | Remove _^H (or ^H_, or whatever) | Remove .^H. (when the first and 3rd chars are the same, is | used for "boldface", or something) | Change |^H^ to ^ (some sort of fake uparrow) | | Actually, somebody should check how man *really* emits these things | first! +--------------- System III and System V nroff generate output that is readable past col -b; as a result a manual page can be makde readable by deleting all instances of the regexp ".^H". Being a Jove user, that's M-X replace-search .^Q^H^M^M -- for GNU, I *think* it's (please no flames, GNU doesn't work under System III so ncoast can't run it): (replace-regexp ".\C-h" ""). Assuming that "col -b" compatibility is considered preferable, most nroff's should work in the same way -- and in that case the command used to generate the man page could pipe through "col -b" and save Emacs some trouble. -- [Copyright 1987 Brandon S. Allbery, all rights reserved] \ ncoast 216 781 6201 [Redistributable only if redistribution is subsequently permitted.] \ 2400 bd. Brandon S. Allbery, moderator of comp.sources.misc and comp.binaries.ibm.pc {{ames,harvard,mit-eddie}!necntc,{well,ihnp4}!hoptoad,cbosgd}!ncoast!allbery <<The opinions herein are those of my cat, therefore they must be correct!>>