[comp.emacs] Where and how to get GNU emacs

yum@faline.bellcore.com (George Yum) (01/22/88)

I would like to know where and how to get the latest version of GNU emacs
that runs on 
	1.	SUN 3
	2.	SUN 4
	3.	VAX under VMS
	4.	Macintoch II and Macintosh SE

Please Email directly to me for these questions may have been answered many 
times on the Net.

Thanks in advance.

jwg1@bunny.UUCP (James W. Gish) (01/26/88)

In article <1727@faline.bellcore.com> yum@faline.UUCP (George Yum) writes:
>I would like to know where and how to get the latest version of GNU emacs
>that runs on 
>	1.	SUN 3
>	2.	SUN 4
>	3.	VAX under VMS
>	4.	Macintoch II and Macintosh SE
>
>Please Email directly to me for these questions may have been answered many 
>times on the Net.
>
I know you are well intentioned and it is appreciated, but new people join
the net world all the time and mailing responses instead of posting them
leaves those people in the dark.  It's no big deal to skip past things that
you've seen before.  Please post - don't mail !

Thanks.



-- 
Jim Gish
GTE Laboratories, Inc., Waltham, MA
CSNET: jwg1@gte-labs    UUCP:  ..!harvard!bunny!jwg1

jr@LF-SERVER-2.BBN.COM (John Robinson) (01/26/88)

>> Please post - don't mail !

okay.  GNU runs on Sun3 and VMS VAX.  Folks are working on the Sun4
version as we speak.  I have seen no word on a MacII version;
presumably making one run under Unix won't be TOO (hah!) difficult.
As for Mac OS, you'd probably be better off using microemacs, which
has Mac support.  This implies no GNU emacs on Mac SE.  Of course,
some industrious soul might make a stab at it...

Following is GNU file etc/DISTRIB.

/jr
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morgan@brambo.UUCP (Morgan W. Jones) (01/29/88)

In article <5702@bunny.UUCP> jwg1@bunny.UUCP (James W. Gish) writes:
}In article <1727@faline.bellcore.com> yum@faline.UUCP (George Yum) writes:
}>I would like to know where and how to get the latest version of GNU emacs
}>that runs on 
}>	1.	SUN 3
}>	2.	SUN 4
}>	3.	VAX under VMS
}>	4.	Macintoch II and Macintosh SE
}>
}>Please Email directly to me for these questions may have been answered many 
}>times on the Net.
}>
}I know you are well intentioned and it is appreciated, but new people join
}the net world all the time and mailing responses instead of posting them
}leaves those people in the dark.  It's no big deal to skip past things that
}you've seen before.  Please post - don't mail !
		      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Actually, the appropriate thing to be done in such cases is for people
to send their responses to the author of the message, and then for the
author to summarize the responses and repost.  This way, we meet the
dual purpose of minimizing net traffic and also ensuring that
information is as widely disseminated as possible.

This isn't a flame or anything like that, I just want to see the net
survive for as long as possible; already people are beginning to have
problems with the volume of news and are having to reduce the number
of groups that they carry.

-- 
Morgan Jones - Bramalea Software Inc.       ...!utgpu!telly \ !brambo!morgan
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